YES. GOOD EVENING. I WILL NOW CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. [1) CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:05] THE TIME IS 4:18 P.M.. MADAM CLERK, CAN WE PLEASE HAVE THE ROLL CALL? MAYOR SALDANA HERE. MAYOR PRO TEM URENA COUNCIL MEMBER MEDINA HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER RAYA HERE. AND COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER MARTINEZ IS ABSENT. WE ALL PLEASE STAND TO. SALUTE. PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR, A NEW BUSINESS CITY COUNCIL FINDS THE ACTION IS NOT A PROJECT. [4.a. City Council finds this action is not a project not a “project” under Section 15378 of the CEQA Guidelines; Receive department budget requests related to Fiscal Year 2025-2026 and provide feedback to staff. (Blakemore)] NOT IT'S NOT A PROJECT, NOT A PROJECT. UNDER THE SECTION 15378 OF THE SQL GUIDELINES. RECEIVED DEPARTMENT BUDGET REQUEST RELATED TO FISCAL YEAR 2025 2026 AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE STAFF. MRS. BLAKEMORE. YES, I'LL GO AHEAD AND I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO TO TRACY TO PRESENT TONIGHT. YOU YOU HAVE YOUR STAFF REPORT IN FRONT OF YOU. SO WE'LL, WE'LL GO THROUGH THESE, THE ORDER IN THE ORDER PRESENTED. AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN STOP TONIGHT. THE GOAL TONIGHT THOUGH, IS TO GO OVER THE FINANCIAL DATA. THE PROPOSED BUDGET NUMBERS ARE IN PLACE. AND TO CAPTURE ANYTHING THAT THE COUNCIL NEEDS A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON, OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY IS AN ERROR THAT'S FOUND OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NOT, NOT HOPING NOT TO REALLY DIG TOO FAR BACK INTO PRIORITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IF THAT MAKES SENSE, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MRS. BLAKEMORE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I THOUGHT WE WOULD. IS IT ON? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SORRY. OKAY. I THOUGHT WE WOULD START BY GOING OVER CIP, WHICH IS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. AND I KNOW THE FIRST PAGE IN FRONT OF YOU IS VERY, VERY DETAILED. I'M GOING TO WALK OVER HIGH LEVEL HOW I LOOKED AT IT. THEN ALL THE CHARTS AFTERWARDS ARE VERY BIG AND VERY CLEAR FOR YOU TO SEE, SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. BUT WHAT I DID IS I LISTED OUT ALL THE CIP BY DEPARTMENT THAT BEING IT'S EVEN HARD FOR ME TO SEE SOMETIMES BUILDINGS C AND G FLEET IT, POLICE, SANITATION, STREETS, WASTEWATER AND WATER. AND SO WHAT I DID IS THE FIRST COLUMN JUST SORT OF SAYS WHAT EACH DEPARTMENT EXPECTS TO SPEND FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. AND THEN WHAT THEY EXPECT TO SPEND FOR FISCAL YEAR 27 AND TO HELP ME LEARN AND TO HELP LIKE KNOW WHICH WHERE THE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM AND HOW THE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE FUNDED. I CREATED COLUMNS ACROSS THE TOP THERE, HIGHLIGHTED GREEN TO SEE WHERE THE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM, WHETHER THEY'RE GRANT FUNDED, TDA FUNDED WHAT OTHER TRANSIT FUND FUNDED, ENTERPRISE FUNDED, JUST SORT OF GET AN IDEA OF WHERE ALL THE MONEY IS. IF WE DID EVERY SINGLE PROJECT THIS FISCAL YEAR AS SEEN, AND THEN IN THE FARTHEST COLUMN, I CALCULATE THE COSTS OUT. IF THOSE PROJECTS WERE TO, THEY, SOME OF THEM GO INTO MULTIPLE FISCAL YEARS ALL THE WAY OUT TO FISCAL YEAR 32, I BELIEVE IT IS. SO THIS IS A HIGH LEVEL CHART. IT REALLY HELPED ME GET ORGANIZED ON, ON LEARNING WHERE EVERYTHING IS COMING FROM. AND SO THAT WAS THE WAY I STARTED LOOKING AT C IP. SO TO BREAK IT DOWN INTO SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE MORE MANAGEABLE WOULD BE GOING SCROLLING DOWN TO PAGE TWO. WHAT I DID HERE IS I SAID WHAT ARE THE C IP PROJECTS WITH COSTS ALREADY GREATER THAN 20%, MEANING WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THEM, WE'RE WORKING ON THEM AND WE EXPECT THEM TO CONTINUE IN FISCAL YEAR 27. AND SO HERE BY DEPARTMENT I LIST OUT FOR I T SANITATION, STREETS, WASTEWATER AND WATER, ALL THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE ALL STARTED. AND WHAT WE EXPECT TO SPEND JUST THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR 27, 6.9 MILLION. AND THEN THE FOLLOWING COST THE YEARS AFTER THAT FISCAL YEAR 28 TO 29. SO THESE ARE ALL THE PROJECTS, LIKE I SAID, THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE WORKS THAT ALL THE DEPARTMENTS ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE PARTICULAR PROJECTS. ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. NO QUESTIONS. NO QUESTIONS. GIVE ME. GIVE ME ONE MINUTE. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. ARENA? [00:05:02] I DO, OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. SO THE NEXT PAGE, NICE AND BIG AGAIN, WOULD BE ALL THOSE PROJECTS WHERE WE'VE HAD MINIMAL COSTS SO FAR. THAT'S LIKE LESS THAN 20%. AND THAT'S USUALLY BECAUSE WE MADE IT MIGHT HAVE HAD TO PAY FOR SOME PLANNING OR SOME HIGH LEVEL FEES. SO ALL OF THESE PROJECTS, IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE THEM IN FISCAL YEAR 27, ARE QUITE SUBSTANTIAL AT $38 MILLION FOR FISCAL YEAR 27. THE BIG ONES, OF COURSE BEING THE POLICE STATION AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE WATER WELLS BEING THE MAJOR, MAJOR ONES. SO LIKE I SAID, THERE'S ONLY MINIMAL COSTS SO FAR ON ALL OF THESE PROJECTS. SO SCOTT, WOULD THIS BE WHERE THE COUNCIL WOULD ADVISE WHICH ONES WILL ACTUALLY BE PROCEEDING WITH OR I THINK THE, THE. I THINK THOSE DECISIONS REALLY KIND OF HAVE HAPPENED AT THE MIDYEAR AND AT THE STRATEGIC MEETING. IF THERE, THERE WILL BE ONGOING UPDATES ON THESE PROJECTS. RIGHT NOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRIMARILY IF I WAS GOING TO SAY ANYTHING, THERE ARE TWO CONSTRAINTS ON ALL THESE PROJECTS. AND THAT'S TIME AND MONEY, LIKE USUAL. SO AVAILABILITY OF MATERIALS OR CONTRACTORS OR WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR THE ONGOING FUNDING. SO THE PRIORITY TO A GREAT EXTENT SETS ITSELF AND WE MOVE FORWARD AS, AS WE HAVE TIME, MONEY AND THE RESOURCES TO MANAGE THEM. SO I DON'T UNLESS THE COUNCIL WANTS TO CHANGE ANY OF THE FORMER GUIDANCE ON THESE PROJECT PRIORITIES, THEN, THEN WE'LL PROCEED AS WE'VE BEEN GUIDED GUIDED IN THE PAST. I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. I WANT TO NOTE THAT THE PROJECTS WE HAVE THE FUNDING FOR IS NOT CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. AND AND AND. O'CLOCK. SO WE'RE WE'RE MOVING THAT IS A HIGH PRIORITY SET OF PROJECTS. OKAY. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR. THAT WE DON'T HAVE RUN OUT OF THOSE PROJECTS. THAT'S CORRECT. AND I GUESS NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE FUNDING ON ONE OTHER PROJECT. AND THAT'S THE THE POLICE STATION ITSELF. SO MISS LAURA CAN WELL, I'LL BRIEFLY UPDATE THE COUNCIL. SO WE HAD A I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH CONGRESSMAN VALADEZ REP TODAY AND ARE ASKED FOR THE EMERGENCY OPERATING CENTER, WHICH WILL BE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET. IT IS MOVING FORWARD. THEY ARE CONSIDERING THAT PROJECT. AND THAT WAS A $5 MILLION ASK. SO IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL, YOU KNOW, AND WE GET IT APPROVED WE WOULD BE HAVING APPROXIMATELY AROUND CLOSE TO 10 MILLION, I BELIEVE, OVER HALF OF THE PROJECT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER PROJECT THAT BOTH SCOTT AND I FEEL, YOU KNOW, WITH THE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL AND, AND I THINK IT HAS BEEN A PRIORITY IDENTIFIED BY THE COUNCIL, PUBLIC SAFETY BEING, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE TOP ONES. I SEE THAT PROJECT PROBABLY MOVING FORWARD AND QUICKER MORE IN THE IN THE COMING MONTHS, HOPEFULLY. AS OUR PROJECT IS SHOVEL READY AND. READY FOR ANALYSIS. THAT? RIGHT. RIGHT. JUST. JUST A COMMENT OR QUESTION. YOU SAID THE ASK WAS 5 MILLION. OBVIOUSLY, WE STILL NEED MORE MONEY. IS THAT BECAUSE THERE'S BUDGETARY CONSTRAINTS LIKE. OR SHOULD WE HAVE ASKED FOR MORE? TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY THERE IS THEY ASK THEY ASK US TO TYPICALLY KEEP IT AROUND 5 MILLION. ANYTHING MORE? THEY TYPICALLY THEY WON'T FUND MORE THAN FIVE. IF YOU KNOW, IF THE PROJECT IS. THEY GOT THE WHOLE PICTURE. THEY KNOW THAT THE PROJECT IS 19 OR CLOSE TO 20 MILLION. BUT THEY CAN ONLY DO 5 MILLION. SO WE WOULD NEED TO FIND FUNDING TO SUPPLEMENT THE REST. GOTCHA. OKAY. JUST BECAUSE THAT COMMENT WAS MADE TO US BEFORE WAS LIKE, IF YOU KNOW THAT YOUR PROJECT IS 20 MILLION, RIGHT, YOU SHOULD BE ASKING FOR MORE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT. YEAH. AND WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN MAKING IT VERY CLEAR WHAT THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS. AND, AND WE'RE ASKING FOR AS AS MUCH AS WE CAN GET. AND, AND, AND MISS LAURA IS CORRECT THAT THIS PARTICULAR FUNDING SOURCE WAS NOT ONLY LIMITED BY A $5 MILLION CAP, BUT ALSO HAD TO BE JUSTIFIED AS PART OF THE EOC FUNCTIONALITY OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. [00:10:06] FOR EXAMPLE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE LOCKER ROOMS COULDN'T BE 100% EOC. THEY'RE, THEY'RE A, A SUPPORT PART OF THE BUILDING, NOT THE PRIMARY PART. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR. THAT IS WE ARE TALKING IN THIS SESSION ONLY ABOUT THE POLICE STATION AND THE BUILDING. CORRECT. YOU ARE CORRECT, COUNCIL MEMBER REYNA. SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY AND THAT IS FOR SURE ABOUT THAT. YEAH. BETWEEN 8 AND 9. BASED ON WHAT WE BASED ON OUR ESTIMATES THAT WE'RE USING. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. SO THE NEXT WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS. I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. OKAY. TO YOUR COMMENTS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, TIME AND MONEY BEING OUR SORT OF MAIN CONSTRAINTS. WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF STREET PROJECTS, RIGHT? RANGING ANYWHERE FROM 33, 50%, 76 AND WHATNOT. BUT HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE WHEN IT COMES TO THESE PROJECTS? RIGHT? SO LIKE, IN TERMS OF WE TALK ABOUT TIME AND MONEY AND WE TALK ABOUT RESOURCE. I MEAN, WE ONLY GOT SO MUCH STAFF, BUT HOW DO WE I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND FOR MYSELF, WHEN IT COMES TO THESE PROJECTS, HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE? OKAY, SO STREET PROJECTS, WHICH ONE IN PARTICULAR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? OH, JUST STREETS IN GENERAL. AND THE FIRST PAGE. RIGHT. 49% COMPLETION. IT'S PAGE NUMBER TWO, IF IF I MAY. COUNCIL. MEMBER MEDINA. ADD A LITTLE BIT FROM THE GRANTS PERSPECTIVE. I KNOW A FEW OF THEM ARE GRANT FUNDED LIKE THE REAP AND ATP CYCLE SIX. A LOT OF THAT IT DEPENDS ON YOU KNOW, THERE IS DESIGN ENGINEERING. THAT'S LIKE THE FIRST PHASE. AND THOSE PLANS HAVE TO BE REVIEWED BY TYPICALLY THIRD PARTY AGENCIES LIKE CALTRANS. AND THAT ALONE CAN TAKE UP TO A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF TO GET PLANS APPROVED. AND THEN WE GOTTA ASK FOR A CONSTRUCTION ALLOCATION. SO SOME OF THEM CAN TAKE A LITTLE LONGER THAN USUAL BECAUSE MOST OF THEM, I WANT TO SAY AT LEAST THOSE TWO ARE GRANT FUNDED. SO DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GRANT TIMELINE THE TERMS IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A GRANT THAT WE HAVE TO USE IT IN TWO YEARS, THEN WE MOVE IT UP TO THE PRIORITY. LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE PROJECT WE'RE GOING TO WORK SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE FINISH IN TIME. SEVENTH STREET WAS ONE. PHASE ONE WAS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT. WE HAD TWO YEARS TO USE THAT MONEY. AND SO WE KIND OF, I WORKED WITH THE CITY ENGINEER AND PUBLIC WORKS AND WE GO OFF OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE DEADLINES AND HOW CAN WE, WE, YOU KNOW, MEET THE ONES THAT NEED TO BE DONE QUICKLY. I GUESS FOR MY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR KNOW IS JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THOSE LIKE JUST KIND OF LIKE, I MEAN, I SEE THE PROGRESS AND IT'S, IT'S GOOD, RIGHT? IT'S GREAT. AND THERE'S PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON. BUT JUST HAVING MAYBE LIKE A CLIFF NOTE, RIGHT? LIKE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT 70%, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SORT OF WAITING ON, YOU KNOW, JUST TO KIND OF KNOW BECAUSE STREETS, I MEAN, EVERYBODY SEES STREETS OR OR THESE SIDEWALK PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, RIGHT? AND BEING TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE WAITING ON, I THINK IS HELPFUL FOR, FOR THE COUNCIL. SO SO IT'S BRINGING BACK JUST A BREAKDOWN TO THE COUNCIL OF, OF WHERE WE'RE AT ON, ON THE ACTUAL STREET PROJECTS. YEAH. OKAY. I CAN DO THAT. YEAH. THAT WAY IT'S, I MEAN, BECAUSE I KNOW EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE YOU UPDATE US ABOUT LIKE THE, THE LIGHTING PROJECT, RIGHT? BUT IT JUST KIND OF SEEMS LIKE THERE'S THIS UPDATE, BUT THEN IT'S KIND OF STAGNANT, RIGHT? SO I THINK IT'S LIKE PERIODIC SORT OF UPDATES THAT WE KNOW, LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, FOR THE LIGHTING PROJECT THAT'S COMPLETELY FUNDED ALREADY. WE'RE NOT WAITING ON FUNDING. SO IT'S JUST THAT THE TIME FRAME IS, YOU KNOW, FIRST WAS DESIGNED P, G, AND E. YEAH. AND THOSE TAKE FOREVER. THEN ONCE THAT'S COMPLETE, THEN IT KIND OF LIKE GOES FULL FORCE. BUT YEAH, MOSTLY IT'S JUST THE FUNDING PART IS WHAT, WHAT WE GET STUCK ON. YEAH. I GUESS THE OTHER THING TOO IS LIKE THE STAFF, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S LIKE WE GOT FUNDING, WE GOT SOME, SOME THINGS ARE CONTRACTED OUT AND THEN OTHER STUFF ARE THROUGH OUR OWN STAFF. CORRECT. BUT THEN THERE'S MULTIPLE THINGS GOING ON, RIGHT? SO THEN THAT WAY WE AT LEAST KNOW SORT OF THE SEQUENCING BECAUSE WE MIGHT SEE THE FUNDING OR EVERYTHING'S FULLY FUNDED. BUT THEN THEY GOT YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON SOMETHING LIKE A BIG PROJECT, RIGHT? WE ONLY HAVE SO MANY STAFF MEMBERS. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO SHIFT TO THAT OTHER ONE, RIGHT? THEY GOT TO FINISH WHATEVER THEY'RE WORKING ON. AND THAT WAY WE JUST GET A SENSE OF LIKE TIMELINES. YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT. YEAH. THAT'S IT. [00:15:10] SURE. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. I JUST I'M NOT SEEING ANY OTHER THAN WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN. I DON'T SEE ANY. NOT ANY WAY. WHICH PROJECT? PALM AVENUE. NORTH. PALM AVENUE PROJECT. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME ONE ON PALM AVENUE THAT THAT WAS COMPLETED LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE EXPANSION, RIGHT? THAT WAS EXPANSION. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE I MEAN. IT WAS THE THE WEST SIDE EXPANDED AND IT WAS I MEAN, I MAY HAVE GOTTEN THAT CONFUSED. I KNOW YOU HAVE MENTIONED THAT WITH BECCA'S. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. THOSE TWO I MAY HAVE CONFUSED THAT WITH GRIFFITH. THEY TOTALLY DO NOT SOUND THE SAME, BUT I, I, MAYBE WHEN YOU YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THOSE TWO PROJECTS, I WAS CONFUSING THE THE THE PALM PROJECT WITH GRIFFITH PROJECT. SO GRIFFITH IS COMING UP IN A YEAR OR SO AND BECCA'S COMING UP PRETTY QUICK, WHICH THAT ONE'S IN DESIGN SHOULD BE DONE PRETTY QUICKLY, BUT YES, PALM NORTH, NORTH TO PALM IS COMPLETE. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. SO THE NEXT PAGE IS THE CIP THAT WE HAVE NOT STARTED AT ALL AS OF TODAY. BUT WE'RE EXPECTED TO START AS OF THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR STARTING IN JULY. THE, THE PROJECT NUMBERS ARE THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN, IN YELLOW ARE BASICALLY THE PROJECT NUMBERS I HAD TO CREATE IN OUR SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY ARE BASICALLY NEW. MOST OF THEM WERE NOT ON THE CIP BOOKLET THAT WAS PUBLISHED ON OUR WEBSITE AS OF JUNE OF LAST YEAR. SO I JUST WANTED TO SORT OF BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION ON, ON SOME OF THEM, I MIGHT HAVE HIGHLIGHTED ONE OF THEM INCORRECTLY, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, ALL THE WASTEWATER WATER AND THE FLEET ARE NEW, NEWER, NEWER PROJECTS. AND SO THESE ARE ALL NOT STARTED AS OF TODAY. AND THOSE ARE THE PROJECTED COSTS FOR THOSE PROJECTS. AND IT MIGHT BE WORTH MENTIONING AS A REMINDER THAT WE OFTEN ADD PROJECTS TO THIS LIST IN THE, THE ENTIRE LIST AHEAD OF THE FUNDING BEING SECURED. AND THAT PART OF THAT STRATEGY IS THAT WE'VE GOT THE PROJECT DEFINED. THERE MAY EVEN BE A SMALL AMOUNT OF DESIGN WORK ON IT THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED, BUT THE PRIMARY MAIN FUNDING HAS NOT BEEN SECURED. BUT WE, OUR APPLICATIONS ARE TAKEN MORE SERIOUSLY BY THE FUNDING AGENCIES. IF IF THE PROJECT APPEARS ON OUR CIP LIST AND. AND WE KEEP IT IN OUR PRIORITY. VERY GOOD. YEAH. GREAT. SO THE NEXT PAGE IS EXACTLY JUST THAT. IT IS OTHER NEW CIP THAT'S NOT EVEN PROJECTED TO START NEXT YEAR. IT'S IT'S PROJECTED TO START IN FISCAL YEAR 28 OR EVEN LATER. SO I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE FOUND A NEED AND IT'S DOCUMENTATION THAT THE GRANTS WANT, WE'LL WE'LL PROVIDE IT. SO. AND THAT'S BASICALLY JUST THE WRAP UP SUMMARY OF THE CONSTRUCTION. I HAVE ONE QUESTION ON SECOND LAST PAGE. OKAY. ON THE CONFLICT 8001 UTILITY RELOCATION PROJECT. WHAT WHAT IS THAT? WHICH ONE? OH. THE CONFLICT. OKAY. I'LL LET. SO. SO THAT ONE THERE IS THE RELOCATION OF OUR WATER LINE. THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE ROUNDABOUT HERE ON 46 AND J STREET. WELL 43. GOTCHA. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? GREAT. SO IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS ON CIP, I THOUGHT WE WOULD GET INTO SOME OF THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS WITH LEWIS WITH WATER, [00:20:05] WASTEWATER AND ALL OF THOSE. SO. YEAH. MR. ARENA, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH THESE? NO. OKAY. PERFECT. OKAY. SO WHAT WHAT TIME ARE WE GOING? IT WOULD IT WOULD BE IS IT CALLED ON LEWIS. IT'S STREET. OH, YOU WANT ME TO? OKAY. SORRY. THE SPREADSHEET. YEAH. OKAY. AND JUST GO ALL THE WAY TO THE LEFT. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'LL START. AND SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS YOU MIGHT WANT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT SMALLER SO THEY CAN SEE IT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I DID COMPARE WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL LAST YEAR. AND THIS ONE LOOKS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED, A LITTLE BIT MORE LAID OUT. WE WILL HAVE EACH OF THE THE ORGS, AS WE CALL THEM IN OUR SYSTEM LAID OUT HERE. WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU REVENUE. WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU EXPENSES. VARIANCE CHANGES, ANYTHING OVER $10,000 OR AND OVER GREATER THAN 5%. WE'LL HAVE AN EXPLANATION TO IT. AND ALSO WE'LL HAVE LISTED OUT OUR OUR CAPITAL OUTLAY, BUT MOST OF ALL OUR CAPITAL. IF WE HAVE A CIP PROJECT IT'S EITHER IN OR IT GETS MOVED INTO WHAT WE CALL OUR CIP OR IN OUR SYSTEM. SO BUT WE'LL HAVE LISTED IT HERE AND I WILL HAVE DETAILED OUT WHAT IS FULLY FUNDED BY THE ENTERPRISE AND, AND WHAT IS NOT. SO IN THIS FIRST ONE IF YOU GO DOWN ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM FOR WASTEWATER I KNOW IT SHOWS A $1.9 MILLION, BUT DON'T. BUT THAT TOTAL, THAT'S REVENUE MINUS EXPENSES BEING AN EXPENSE OF THAT 1.9 MILLION, 1.478. SO ALMOST 1.5 IS IF WE DID ALL OF OUR CONSTRUCTION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THIS YEAR. SO ONCE YOU SUBTRACT THAT OUT THE BUDGET ENDS UP BEING IN A DEFICIT. LIKE IT ENDS UP BEING $67,000 IN EXPENSES, AND THEN WE CAN GO THROUGH ABOVE WITH SCOTT'S ASSISTANCE ALSO ON WHERE THOSE VARIANCES LIE IN EACH OF THE FUNDS. YEAH. AND I THINK IT'S WORTH, AGAIN, POINTING OUT THE SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE PAST WITH OUR ENTERPRISES SPECIFICALLY. WE, WE KNOW THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CURRENT RATE SCHEDULE, THE FIVE YEAR RATE SCHEDULE, THERE WAS A DECISION MADE TO USE SOME OF THE ABUNDANCE OF, OF RESERVES IN THE ENTERPRISES TO HELP SUBSIDIZE THE RATE SCHEDULE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WERE MADE, AND ALSO SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECT AND OPERATING COSTS WHERE WHERE WE KNOW THERE ARE LARGE CAPITAL NEEDS COMING UP FOR AN ENTERPRISE. WE LEAVE THOSE RESERVES HIGH WHERE WE KNOW WE WANT TO GET CLOSER TO MATCHING WITH OUR OPERATING COSTS. WE ALLOW SOME OF THOSE RESERVES TO BE USED THAT THAT MONEY IS BEEN COLLECTED FROM THE RATEPAYERS AND AND IT CAN BE USED BOTH FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND FOR OPERATING COSTS WHEN NEEDED. AND SO WHEN WE SEE A DEFICIT ON A EXPENSE REVENUE AND TRANSFER KIND OF BASIS IT DOESN'T GET US TOO EXCITED IN THE, IN THE ENTERPRISES BECAUSE THEY HAVE LARGE RESERVE BALANCES AND THEY'RE DESIGNED TO BE USED THAT WAY. SO IF THEY'RE MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING UP SOME OTHER WORKSHEETS ON HOW THAT'S HOW THAT'S CALCULATED. BUT WHEN WE, WHEN WE SEE YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR, A DECLINING RESERVE BALANCE, THAT'S WHEN WE START TO GET CONCERNED. AND WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT WITH THE AT LEAST OUR THREE PRIMARY ENTERPRISES. ANY QUESTIONS? ON ANY OF THIS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO. ON ON THESE WE HAVE A DECISION TO USE RESERVES AND SO ON PAPER THAT THAT EQUALS A DEFICIT. MR.. RIJINO. SO BY DEFINITION, WE WE MADE THAT DECISION TO USE RESERVES TO FUND THE OPERATING COSTS RATHER THAN INCREASE THE RATES SPECIFICALLY FOR WATER. [00:25:01] BUT IN THE OTHER THE OTHER UTILITIES AS WELL. RATHER THAN INCREASING THE THE RATE PAYER RATES AT THIS POINT, THIS IS A PLEASANT SURPRISE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION. YES. AND IT. NOW YOU'RE ADDING THE GREAT MUSICIAN. SO WITH THAT, THE WATERFRONT IS REFERRING TO THE SERVICE. NOT NECESSARILY RACE THE RACE OR NOT RACING AT ALL. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO. THE THE FIVE YEAR RATE PLAN THAT'S IN EFFECT NOW IS SUBSIDIZED BY THOSE RESERVES. THE RATES WERE NOT INCREASED AS MUCH AS THE NORMAL ANALYSIS WOULD LEAD US TO DO. RIGHT. BECAUSE WE HAVE A DECISION. CORRECT? CORRECT. SO WE CONTINUE TO SUBSIDIZE THAT. THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE RIGHT NUMBER. YES. AND NOW AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ALSO THAT THE CURRENT RATE STUDY THAT'S STILL A YEAR AWAY OR MORE AWAY FROM BEING IMPLEMENTED ANTICIPATES STOPPING THAT SUBSIDY. AND WE'RE NOW ON AN EVEN KEEL BASIS, PARTICULARLY IN THE WATER ENTERPRISE, WHERE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF OURSELVES HERE, BUT PARTICULARLY IN THE WATER, WHERE THE RATE MODEST RATE INCREASES WILL NOW CONTINUE TO COVER THE INCREASING COSTS OF DELIVERING THAT SERVICE WITHOUT FURTHER DEPLETING THE THE RESERVES. BUT THIS YEAR, THIS YEAR IS THE FINAL YEAR 20. ON JULY 1ST, 27, THE FINAL YEAR OF THE FIVE YEAR RATE PLAN WILL GO INTO EFFECT. AND THAT DOES INCLUDE SUBSIDIZED RATES. OKAY. WITHOUT ANY QUESTION, WE WE STARTED EARLY TO SEE WHERE SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE. YES. CORRECT. CORRECT. ANY HESITATION TO. BUT NOT IN THE ACTUAL COST OF THE CONSUMER, ACTUALLY A PERCENTAGE FROM WHERE THEY ARE TODAY. WELL, THE THE AS I SAID, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE SUSTAINABLE, MODEST RATE INCREASES THAT ARE THAT ARE CONSISTENT YEAR OVER YEAR, RATHER THAN THE SPIKES AND VALLEYS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. SO I IT'S A LITTLE BIT PREMATURE TO, TO GUESS AT WHAT THOSE ARE GOING TO TURN OUT TO BE. BUT THE AS YOU RECALL, WE BROUGHT THAT PROCESS IN HOUSE RATHER THAN SHIPPING THAT OUT TO AN OUTSIDE ENGINEERING FIRM AND AT QUITE A SAVINGS IN COST. AND WE HAVE A LOT MORE CONTROL. WE CAN RUN NUMEROUS MODELS AND SEE WHAT THE SHORT AND LONG, LONG TERM EFFECTS ARE WITHOUT PAYING FOR THAT FROM AN OUTSIDE FIRM. SO BUT THAT WILL DEFINITELY BE A TOPIC FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR. AGAIN, THE THIS THIS RATE STRUCTURE THAT'S ALREADY APPROVED, THE 218 PROCESS ALREADY APPROVED THE CURRENT RATE STRUCTURE THROUGH THE 2627 FISCAL YEAR. SO ON, ON JULY 1ST, WE'LL ENTER OUR LAST YEAR OF THAT FIVE YEAR RATE SCHEDULE. SO IT WON'T BE UNTIL JULY OF 28 WHEN THESE NEW RATES WILL GO INTO EFFECT. RIGHT. I WORDS ARE ENCOURAGING TO ME. YOU KNOW, WE SEE MODEST RATES RATHER THAN WHAT WAS HAPPENING BEFORE. YES. AGREED. AND AND IT'S A LARGE PART IN DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT THE REVOLVING FUND FUNDING SO THAT WE DID NOT HAVE TO PLACE THAT COST OF REPLACING OUR OLDER WELLS AND WHATNOT ON THE BACKS OF OUR RATEPAYERS. SO THAT'S THAT WAS PART OF THE CONSIDERATION WHEN WE AGREED TO SUBSIDIZE THE THE RATE SCHEDULE INCREASES. THANK YOU. I HAVE GOT OUT OF ORDER THERE. NO, NO. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. JUST IN REGARDS TO NUMBERS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY. OR MAYBE THESE NUMBERS NEED TO BE LOOKED AT, BUT I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED ON THE INCREASE SLASH DECREASE COLUMN. YEAH. LET ME EXPLAIN THAT. SO IF YOU IF IT'S AN EXPENSE, WHICH WOULD START WITH LIKE A FIVE OR AN EIGHT IN THE OBJECT CODE, IF YOU SEE IT, IT'S BLACK, THEN THAT'S AN INCREASE TO EXPENSE. [00:30:03] OKAY. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO REVENUE, BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO MESS WITH ALL THE CALCULATIONS. IF IF IT'S ACTUALLY IF IT'S ACTUALLY A NEGATIVE ON THE REVENUE, IT'S ACTUALLY AN INCREASE THE REVENUE. IT'S JUST THE WAY THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT LISTS OUT. SO IF YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR LINE, WE CAN GO THROUGH AN EXAMPLE. YEAH. I MEAN, I WAS JUST CONFUSED BECAUSE I SAW SOMETHING, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE ENTERPRISE REVENUE, RIGHT? SO THAT MEANS IT'S ESTIMATED TO GO DOWN 79,000. YEAH. I SEE IT IN BLACK. RIGHT. YEAH. BECAUSE IT'S A REVENUE ACCOUNT. SO YES. AND ON AN EXPENSE LIKE UTILITY, THEN THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE IT IN RED. SO AND THEN ON WHEN IT BECOMES AN EXPENSE, LIKE JUST SAY FOR UTILITIES. YEAH. UTILITIES THAT THAT'S A REDUCTION. THAT'S A REDUCTION OF EXPENSE. I'VE BEEN TRACKING HOW MUCH HAS BEEN CODED TO UTILITIES. BUT THAT'S BUT THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S AN EXPENSE. YEAH. THAT'S WHY IT'S IN RED AND THE REVENUE IS IN BLACK. YES. THEY'RE BOTH GOING DOWN. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. YES. IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT. IT'S A REVENUE AND EXPENSE. YES. TWO DIFFERENT BUCKETS. YEP. TWO DIFFERENT BUCKETS. GOTCHA. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR ASKING. YES. THAT'S IT. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A QUESTION FOR THIS ONE, BUT WHAT IS OUR PROPERTY TAX FORECAST IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WITH THE WATER CHALLENGES WE'RE FACING HOUSES BEING BUILT. I MEAN, I KNOW WHERE DOES THIS LAND IN THIS QUESTION ON WHAT YOU WERE PRESENTING, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ASK THAT WOULD THAT BE THE HDL ONE I CAN LOOK UP? SO. SAY SAY ONE MORE TIME. WHAT IS OUR PROPERTY TAX FORECAST IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WITH THE WATER CHALLENGES IMPACTING HOUSE HOUSES BEING BUILT. SO. I, IF I MAY. YEAH. GO AHEAD. RIGHT. MAYOR. IF WE'RE NOT BUILDING HOUSES. OUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE STAYING THE SAME. WE'RE NOT COLLECTING MORE BECAUSE THERE'S NO NEW DEVELOPMENT. IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION. SO IF THERE'S NO HOUSES BEING BUILT, ARE OUR PROPERTY TAXES WOULD STAY THE SAME. AT LEAST FOR LIKE NEXT YEAR BECAUSE WE DON'T FORESEE ANY DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING AT LEAST OTHER THAN REASSESSMENTS. YES. WHICH WOULD CAUSE, YOU KNOW, A SLOW GROWTH OF THAT REVENUE. BUT WITHOUT ADDITIONAL STRUCTURES BEING BUILT. NO, NO SHARP INCREASES. SO, BUT IN A FIVE YEAR WINDOW, WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE PERHAPS SIGNIFICANT. WE ALREADY HAVE ONE DEVELOPER THAT'S BEGINNING TO ENGAGE AND WOULD WOULD BRING HIS OWN WATER SUPPLY. AND SO WE COULD SEE THE BEGINNING OF PROJECTS LIKE THAT WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO. AND SO IN A FIVE YEAR WINDOW, YES, WE WOULD SEE THOSE ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES ENTER THE TAX ROLLS. PROPERTY TAX REMEMBER IS A RELATIVELY SMALL PORTION OF OUR REVENUE. PIE CHART IF YOU WILL. THE, THE SALES TAX AND VLF AND WHATNOT ARE MUCH LARGER COMPONENTS OF THAT. OKAY. SO BUT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT REVENUES HERE LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. OKAY. WE HAVE HAD A FAIR AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT SO THAT THAT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO PROPERTY TAXES. BUT CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSING IS, IS A CONCERN. SO BUT BUT THERE WILL BE SOME INCREASE. OKAY. THANK YOU. MINIMAL. PROCEED OR ANY ANY QUESTIONS. NO MORE QUESTIONS. YOU JUST YOU SAID THAT JULY 28TH. THAT'S GOING TO BE THE NEW WHEN WE GET THE NEW WATER RATES NEXT YEAR, JULY 1ST, JULY 1ST OF THIS YEAR IS THE LAST YEAR OF OUR CURRENT RATE SCHEDULE, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN PUBLISHED. AND IT'S ABOUT A WELL, I DON'T WANT TO TRY TO QUOTE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. SO THIS IS THE LAST YEAR OF REDUCING THE BASE VOLUME ON WATER THAT'S ON A BILL. AND SO THERE'S BEEN THIS FIVE YEAR SHIFT FROM BASICALLY EVERYBODY WAS ON THEIR BASE RATE TO ESSENTIALLY YOU KNOW, UNMETERED. AND NOW MUCH LOWER AMOUNT IS PART OF YOUR BASE RATE. MORE OF IT IS, IS BILLED BASED ON THE VARIABLE AMOUNT THAT THE CONSUMER ACTUALLY HAS CONTROL OVER. SO BEGINNING JULY 1ST OF 2026, THAT LAST YEAR OF APPROVED RATES WILL GO INTO EFFECT AND IT WILL END WITH ADOPTION OF A NEW A NEW RATE SCHEDULE, HOPEFULLY ANOTHER FIVE YEAR RATE SCHEDULE ON JULY 1ST OF 2028. [00:35:03] OKAY. OR 2027, STARTING THE 2028 YEAR. 2020. YES. 2027 STARTING THE 28 FISCAL YEAR, AS YOU SAID, 28. BUT YOU MEANT FISCAL YEAR 28 STARTING JULY 1ST, 2027. OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTION. YEAH. OKAY. GOOD. MR.. RIJINO. YES, YES. VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT. THANK YOU. SO YEAH, YOU'RE WELCOME. THE NEXT ONE WE'RE MOVING TO IS WATER. ALL OF THIS BUDGET IS SET UP VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU JUST SAW. I ALSO HIGHLIGHTED AT THE BOTTOM, IF WE DID ALL THE CIP THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE FULLY FUNDED BY THE ENTERPRISE BECAUSE CURRENTLY THERE'S NO OTHER MONEY FOR THOSE TAN HIGHLIGHTED ONES. IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S ABOUT $110,000 IS WHAT WE COME UP TO NET FOR THIS COMING UP FISCAL YEAR. AND THE PREVIOUS YEAR, IT WAS 581 581,000. YOU SEE THAT, SCOTT? I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT. NO. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THESE. AS THEY SAY, DEVELOP WELLS. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEW WELLS THAT ARE BEING PUNCHED OUT FRESH. LIKE THESE ARE JUST THE ONES THAT ARE EXISTING ALREADY. RIGHT. THESE ARE THE REPLACEMENT WELLS. YES. FUNDED BY THAT REVOLVING FUND. OKAY. YES. SO YEAH, RIGHT NOW THE DECISION WAS MADE LAST YEAR. WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT WATER SUPPLY AND RELIABILITY SUSTAINABILITY WAS THAT THE CITY IN OUR RESERVES, WE COULD AFFORD TO THE TIME AND THE MONEY TO GO AHEAD AND ADD THIS STORAGE TANK TO THE WATER SYSTEM, WHICH WILL BE GOING INTO SERVICE HERE PRETTY SOON. AND THAT THAT GIVES US A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE IS SOME ENERGY SAVINGS WE CAN PUMP DURING LOW ENERGY COST TIMES. PUT THAT WATER IN THE TANK, DELIVER IT DURING HIGH COST TIMES. AND AND WE COULD GET IT DONE MUCH, MUCH FASTER THAN A BRAND NEW, WELL, AT A LOWER COST THAN A BRAND NEW WELL. SO BECAUSE THE, THE NEW WELL COSTS ARE SO HIGH, WE'RE, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT KICKING THE CAN HERE TO SEE IF A DEVELOPER WILL STEP UP AND HELP US WITH THAT. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SPREAD THAT $5 MILLION COST OVER OUR RATEPAYERS. AND I THINK WE'RE GETTING SOME TRACTION THERE. AND, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THAT STRATEGY. THAT'S GREAT NEWS. YEAH. I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY WHEN. NO, NO. AT LEAST SOMEBODY'S CONSIDERING. YEAH. IF I MAY ADD CITY MANAGER. WE ALSO DID APPLY FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT GRANT BLOCK GRANT, CDBG FOR ANOTHER WATER TANK, WHICH WILL ALSO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF CAPACITY TO POTENTIALLY ALLOW 400 NEW HOMES. I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE ESTIMATE THAT OUR WATER ENGINEER GAVE US. HOPEFULLY SOMETIME THIS FALL WE'LL HEAR BACK FROM CDBG. HOPEFULLY IT'S GOOD NEWS. WE GET THE GRANT AND WE'RE ABLE TO COME BACK AND REPORT THAT WE MIGHT BE BUILDING A SECOND TANK. GOOD NEWS. YEAH, THIS WAS BEFORE THE COUNCIL NOT TOO LONG AGO. AM I CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, MR. GRANER. QUESTION REGARDING THE THE BOTTOM LINE THERE ON THE CIP 5168 IN BUDGET ON THE CIP 110 110,116. AND SLIGHTLY MORE ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. BUT THIS BILL IS. AND HOW DO WE ANTICIPATE TO COVER. IS THERE SOME IDEA IN THE PLAN IS SOME GRANTS THAT WE MAY RECEIVE? WHAT ARE WE THINKING? SO BY DEFINITION, MR.. RIJINO. THE THE CIP PROJECTS ARE TYPICALLY PAID FOR OUT OF RESERVES, NOT OUT OF OPERATING BUDGET. RIGHT. SO WHEN WE SET ASIDE WHEN WE OPERATE OUR UTILITIES AND WATER IS A GOOD EXAMPLE AT A QUOTE UNQUOTE PROFIT, IT'S NOT REALLY A PROFIT. WE'VE DESIGNED THE RATES TO NOT ONLY PAY FOR THE OPERATING COSTS, BUT ALSO TO PUT MONEY AWAY FOR MAJOR REPAIRS, EXPANSIONS, AND SO FORTH. AND SO WHEN WE SEE A. DEFICIT, IF YOU WILL, THAT'S CAUSED BY CIP PROJECTS. IT'S NOT REALLY OPERATIONAL DEFICIT SPENDING. [00:40:02] IT'S IT'S USE OF THOSE RESERVES FOR THE PURPOSE THEY WERE COLLECTED. I UNDERSTAND. AND REGARDING WHAT YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, THAT'S WHAT WE DID DURING THE RACE. WE LOOKED AT WHAT WE HAD ON HAND AND WE WERE. AND SO CORRECT. I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT POSITIVE CHANGE. YES, I AM TOO. I THINK WE ALL ARE. YEAH. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. GOOD. MR. MAYOR MEDINA. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. WE'RE GOOD. SO WE'RE JUST ALL THIS IS THE LAST ONE I'LL TALK ABOUT, AND THEN I'LL JUST MOVE IT ON INTO LOUIS. BUT IT'S JUST ANNOTATIONS. NEXT. AND AS FAR AS SANITATION IS CONCERNED WHEN BACKING OUT ALL OF THE CIP THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY FUNDED BY THE ENTERPRISE FUND, BUT NOT FROM, AS SCOTT WAS SAYING. IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S A TWO AT A $270,000 DEFICIT RIGHT NOW IS WHAT IT'S PROJECTED AT. AND I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THERE HAS BEEN OTHER LINE ITEMS ON THE. IF YOU LOOK THROUGH SOME OF THE LINE ITEMS THAT HAVE A LOT OF CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO SOME OF THE EXPENSES IN HOPES THAT WE WON'T NEED EVERYTHING THAT WE, WE SAID WE NEED FOR SOME OF THE EXPENSES. AND I THINK SCOTT MIGHT HAVE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT SOME OF THOSE IN CLOSED SESSION TO. YES. WHAT ARE THE OPERATING TRANSFERS? I SEE THAT ON ALL THE SLIDES, BUT I DON'T FULLY. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT'S FINE. SO SO THE WAY WE DO IT IS IF IF WE WERE TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO FUND THIS CIP PROJECT BASED ON SOME OF THE FUNDS WE HAVE IN, IN, IN WHAT ARE WE AT RIGHT NOW? WASTEWATER. WE'RE IN SANITATION. WE'RE GOING TO FUND IT BY SANITATION INSTEAD OF WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL JUST TAKE THE CHUNK OF CHANGE THAT WE SAY, WE'RE GOING TO USE 1 MILLION TO GO FUND THIS PROJECT. AND PER THE GL GENERAL LEDGER FOR TYLER MUNIS THAT WE USE, WE MOVE ALL THAT MONEY INTO A CERTAIN ACCOUNT. SO IT'S EASY TO ACCOUNT FOR AND TRACK ALL THE INCOMING REVENUES. IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL FUNDING COMING IN AND WE JUST TRACK ALL THE EXPENSES THERE TO SORT OF KEEP IT SEPARATE FROM THE ACTUAL SANITATION FUND. SO IF WE WERE TO DO EVERY PROJECT WE WANTED TO DO ON THAT CIP PROJECT, WE WOULD BE MOVING OUT THAT CHUNK OF MONEY INTO INTO A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT JUST TO ACCOUNT FOR ALL THE, THE, THE INVOICES AND PAYMENTS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. SO ALL THAT WOULD BE OPERATING EXPENSES. IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? OR WHEN YOU THINK OF NO, NOT OPERATING EXPENSES. NO. THEY WOULD BE TRANSFERS ASSOCIATED WITH CAPITAL PROJECTS PRIMARILY TRANSFERS. I, I DON'T THINK I'M UNDERSTANDING. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME ONE MORE TIME? LET ME SEE. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRANSFERS, WHAT WE'RE JUST SAYING. YEAH. THAT'S OKAY. SO SO TO MAKE OUR BOOKS CLEANER, OUR GENERAL LEDGER CLEANER WE LIKE TO TAKE ALL THE FUNDS THAT WE GET IN AND AND MOVE THEM TO A CERTAIN ACCOUNT, WHICH WE USE FOR ALL CAPITAL PROJECTS. AND IT'S JUST AN EASIER, CLEANER WAY TO ACCOUNT FOR IT. SO SOMETHING DOESN'T GET MISCODED AND ACTUALLY CODED TO THE SANITATION FUND. SO THAT WHEN WE, THAT'S WHY WE GIVE IT A PROJECT NUMBER IS WE, WHEN WE PAY FOR ANY OF THE CONSTRUCTION, ANY OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, WE'RE ALWAYS CODING TO THAT THAT PROJECT NUMBER, BUT IT'S CLEANER IF IT'S ALL WITHIN THE SAME FUND IN OUR SYSTEM. AND SO IF WE GET GRANT MONEY, WE PUT THE GRANT MONEY INTO THAT, THAT CAPITAL PROJECT. IT'S 171, BY THE WAY. IT'S 171. WE'LL JUST PUT THE MONEY THERE. SO IF WE'VE EARMARKED THAT WE HAVE NO GRANT MONEY, WE WE DO NOT HAVE LIKE TDA OR ANY OTHER KIND OF FUNDING SOURCE. AND IT'S COMING FROM OUR OWN FUNDS, OUR OWN INTERNAL CITY OF WASCO FUNDS. THEN WHAT WE DO IS WE PULL IT OUT OF THE BUCKET THAT WE WERE GOING TO USE, AND THEN WE JUST ACCOUNT FOR IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO OKAY, A, A DIFFERENT, A LITTLE BIT SIMPLER EXAMPLE ARE THE FIRST TWO ITEMS ON THE OPERATING TRANSFERS UNDER SANITATION. I THINK THAT SANITATION. YEAH. YES. SO MUNIS UPGRADE AND KEYLESS ACCESS. [00:45:04] SO THESE ARE CITY WIDE PROJECTS THAT ARE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT GETS A SLICE OF THAT COST. OKAY. GOT IT. TRANSFER THAT TAKES PLACE OUT OF SANITATION DEPARTMENT THAT SAYS, OKAY, WE GOT TO WRITE UP $100,000 CHECK TO TYLER FOR THIS MUNIS UPGRADE. AND AND SANITATION SHARE IS 16. SO IT'S A SHARED COST, ESSENTIALLY. YES. OKAY. GOTCHA. SO THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER USE A SIMILAR USE, BUT VERY GOOD EXAMPLE. YEAH. IT'S JUST THERE ARE A LOT OF TIMES A LOT OF DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES. AND SO WHEN YOU GET AN INVOICE IN, YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO LIKE, OH, I HAVE TO BREAK IT OUT AND CHARGE THIS DEPARTMENT, THIS AND THIS DEPARTMENT THAT. AND THERE COULD BE ROOM FOR ERROR AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. SO TO PREVENT ERROR WE DO IT WHERE WE, WE MOVE IT OUT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YEAH, YEAH. IN THIS CASE, AND MAYBE ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE IS THE, THE SHOT OR THE C AND G STREET SWEEPER. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE PAID FOR. AND CORRECT ME IF I GET ASTRAY HERE, BUT IT'LL BE PAID FOR OUT OF THESE THE, THE SANITATION FUND, BUT TRANSFERRED OUT TO A CIP WHERE BECAUSE WE HAVE A PROJECT BY A STREET SWEEPER, IT'S, IT'S OUTSIDE THE CLOSED LOOP OF THE SANITATION FUND ITSELF IN OPERATION, BUT IT GETS TO PAY FOR IT. SO THAT MONEY GETS TRANSFERRED OUT, PUT INTO THE CIP AND THE CHECKS WRITTEN. GOTCHA. OKAY. THANK YOU. NOW SO WE CAN AVOID THE NEXT QUESTION THAT'S GOING TO COME UP. IF YOU SEE JUST ABOVE THE OPERATING TRANSFERS, THE FOUR ITEMS ABOVE THAT IT SERVICE FEES, SHOP FEES, FACILITIES, FEES. THESE ARE SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE CITY. THE IT DEPARTMENT ENDS UP GETTING BILLED OUT TO ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. THE SHOP WORKS ON CARS FROM EVERY DEPARTMENT. SO THEIR COSTS GET DIVVIED UP ACCORDING TO FORMULAS THAT HAVE JUST KIND OF EVOLVED THEIR ALLOCATIONS. ESSENTIALLY, THE ALLOCATIONS GET SET. SO THAT'S WHEN YOU SEE FEES IN THERE. THOSE ARE COSTS COMING FROM OUTSIDE THIS PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION. BUT IT'S THEIR SHARE OF A OF A SHARED CITY SERVICE. YEP. OKAY. YEP. IS THIS A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU NOW? CLEARLY IF YOU DO THIS, THIS IS THIS THE FIRST TIME THAT. WE'VE DONE IT? I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN SHOWN THIS WAY IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS. WE'VE DONE IT THOUGH. YEAH. THIS MAKES IT VERY CLEAR. SO I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. AND SO WITH THAT, THE NEXT SCREEN, SINCE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC OF WE'VE GONE THROUGH THOSE ENTERPRISE FUNDS. AND SINCE THIS IS MORE OF LEWIS'S, I THOUGHT HE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE REST OF HIS DEPARTMENT, STARTING WITH ENGINEERING. ARE YOU READY? I AM NOT. OKAY. OKAY. SO I MEAN, SURPRISE. WELL, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS? ALL OF THIS? LET'S. WELL, HERE'S LET'S SEE WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS. SO I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T ANTICIPATE PUTTING THE COUNCIL THROUGH A LINE BY LINE ANALYSIS OF EACH OF THESE. AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THAT FINAL RIGHT HAND COLUMN IS FOR, IS TO POINT OUT WHERE THE LARGEST CHANGES HAVE BEEN HAVE TAKEN PLACE AND IN SOME CASES, A NOTE THAT SAYS WHY. AND SO IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, I THINK MAYBE TRACY WOULD BE BEST TO JUST EXPLAIN THE BOTTOM LINE FIRST, AND THEN LEAVE IT OPEN FOR QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL. AND BETWEEN ALL OF US AND LOUIS, WE CAN WE CAN GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED NOW. NOW WE WANT TO GO LINE BY LINE. OKAY. NO, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO ORDER BREAKFAST. YEAH. MIDNIGHT SNACK. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. CHIEF. AND SO THE THING WITH ENGINEERING IS THE TOTAL PROPOSED BUDGET FOR ENGINEERING IS $841,000, WHERE PREVIOUS YEAR WAS ONLY 375,000. THAT MAKES FOR A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN OPERATING EXPENSES. AND THAT'S PRIMARILY DUE TO SALARY BECAUSE OF ADDITIONAL HEADCOUNT. SO THAT'S THE BIG CHANGE. I THINK IF LOUIS NEEDS, WE HAVE A VERY DETAILED SALARY CALCULATION AND IT'S CONFIDENTIAL. AND I TRUST ME, YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE IT HAS A LOT OF CRAZY THINGS IN IT. BUT IS WHEN WE GO THROUGH THIS HIGH LEVEL, EVEN, I MEAN, LOUIS WOULD KNOW BEST WHO'S IN HIS DEPARTMENT, WHO'S NEW, WHO'S BEEN ADDED THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS WITH THE CITY ENGINEERING. SO WE ADDED, YOU KNOW, WE PROMOTED WITH IN-HOUSE CITY ENGINEER. SO HE MOVED UP FROM DEPUTY DIRECTOR TO CITY ENGINEER. WE THEN BACKFILLED AND HIRED FOR DEPUTY, NOT DEPUTY DIRECTOR. [00:50:03] I'M SORRY, PROJECT MANAGER. SO HIRED PROJECT MANAGER AND ALSO IN-HOUSE FOR PROJECTS COORDINATOR AS WELL. SO WE HAVE THREE ESSENTIALLY NEW POSITIONS THAT ARE IN THE DEPARTMENT ENGINEERING, WHICH IS NOW BASICALLY COMPLETE IN A SENSE. AND THEY'LL PILE ON HERE. AND THAT WAS A CONSCIOUS DECISION IS TO NOW THAT WE HAVE A CITY ENGINEER AND TO BE FAIR, WAS ALSO ACTING AS A PROJECT COORDINATOR AND WEREN'T REALLY ABLE TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF HIS LICENSING AND HIS ABILITY TO DO PLAN, DESIGN AND PLAN SIGNING. SO NOW WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TOWARD AND WE ALREADY HAVE ON CERTAIN PROJECTS, THE IN HOUSE CITY ENGINEER WILL BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THAT ENGINEERING WORK INSTEAD OF SUBBING IT OUT. SO THIS IS PART OF A LONG TERM PLAN IS TO PULL SOME NOT ALL OF IT, BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE SPECIALTY ENGINEERS THAT WE STILL NEED TO HIRE FROM OUTSIDE, BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PULL MORE AND MORE OF THESE STRAIGHTFORWARD DESIGNS IN-HOUSE AND AVOID THE TIME AND THE COST OF SUBBING THIS WORK OUT. SO THIS INCREASE PROBABLY ALREADY PAID FOR THIS INCREASE IN THIS DEPARTMENT BUDGET WITH SAVINGS IN EXACTLY THAT WAY. YEAH, I RECALL I DON'T REMEMBER THE MEETING, BUT THERE WAS ONE THAT YOU PRESENTED ABOUT. THERE WAS COST SAVINGS ALREADY BECAUSE WE DID IT NOW. SO. YEP. RIGHT. I THINK IT WAS ABOUT $500,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WOW. SO THAT ALONE AND, YOU KNOW, JUST JUST DOING DESIGN IN HOUSE WITH FUTURE PROJECTS. AND THE GOAL IS TO, TO CONTINUE DOING DESIGN IN HOUSE AND FOR FUTURE PROJECTS TO BE SHELF READY. LAURA MENTIONS QUITE A BIT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS ALREADY ON THE SHELF READY TO GO, YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO GET FUNDED. YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING, AND NO MATTER WHAT, WHENEVER YOU BRING SOMEBODY FROM THIRD PARTY, IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE, RIGHT? SO AS MUCH AS WE CAN DO AS A CITY IN HOUSE, IT'S IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE CHEAPER, RIGHT? SO I, I THINK IT'S BEEN GREAT SO FAR. I MEAN, JUST THE PRESENTATION YOU GAVE US AT ONE TIME ABOUT THE SAVINGS, AND I'M SURE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, COMING THROUGH. SO YES, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. GO AHEAD. MR.. RIJINO. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD, IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE LOOK AT THIS AND THEY'RE SAYING, YOU KNOW, HEY, 158% INCREASE IN FOUND OUT. AND YOU KNOW WHAT SCOTT ALLUDED TO AND COUNCIL MEMBER MAYOR MEDINA MENTIONED THIS WAS BROUGHT FORWARD EXACTLY BECAUSE OF THIS REASON, BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY TO BE REALIZED BY HAVING AN IN-HOUSE ENGINEER. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE TALK ABOUT IT NOW SO THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, STACKING THE DEPARTMENT WITH PERSONNEL, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY FEELING KEY POSITIONS THAT ARE REALIZED ON SOME MAJOR SAVINGS TO THE CITY OVER THE LONG RUN. YEAH. NO, I DON'T THINK SO. YOU'LL, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SEE AN ITEM THERE, 900% INCREASE. YEAH, I CAN. WE'VE BEEN RUNNING THE WHEELS OFF OUR COPIERS, SO THOSE HAVE BEEN A NON COST IN THE PAST. AND NOW IT'S IT'S TIME. IN FACT IT'S PAST TIME. IT'S A LOT OF OUR TIME. IT'S ACTUALLY WAITING ON ME. YEAH. THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT I THINK THAT'S WHY WE STARTED LATE. RIGHT. OUR PRINTER DOESN'T WORK. OUR COPIER DOESN'T WORK. AND HE IS PLANNING THEIR COPIER. DIDN'T WANT TO GO IN ORDER. SO YES, AND JUST A GENERAL COMMENT ACROSS THE BOARD WHEN IT COMES TO SOME OF THE OTHER SALARY LINE ITEMS, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE WENT VERY CONSERVATIVE ON THAT. MEANING WHEN IT COMES TO LIKE GROUP INSURANCE, WE JUST WE WENT TO THE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CHOOSE, RIGHT? SO WE JUST SAY THEY'RE ALL GOING TO CHOOSE THE MOST EXPENSIVE PLAN. AND SO THERE'S SOME WIGGLE ROOM IN THERE. BUT WE WANTED TO WORST CASE SCENARIO, EVERYBODY CHOSE THE MOST EXPENSIVE PLAN. SO WE, WE TOOK THAT PHILOSOPHY ON, ON SOME OF THE OTHER SALARY RELATED ITEMS. AND THAT'S NOT A HUGE THAT'S NOT A CHANGE AT ALL FROM WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. AND WE ALWAYS BUDGET LABOR COSTS AT FULL STAFFING LEVELS, EVEN IF EVEN THOUGH WE MAY HAVE A VACANCY OR WE, WE DO NOT BUDGET FOR FROZEN POSITIONS, BUT WE DO BUDGET FOR VACANT. YEAH. OKAY. GOOD STUFF. ALL RIGHT. AND GOING ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THAT PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT FOR ENGINEERING. [00:55:01] AGAIN. YEAH. I JUST ASKED ONE. YOU HAD YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE THREE NEW HIRES FOR THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FOR THE CITY. CITY ENGINEER, CITY PROJECT MANAGER, COORDINATOR. AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? A PROJECT MANAGER, CITY ENGINEER, AND PROJECT COORDINATOR. SO TWO WERE IN-HOUSE PROMOTIONS AND ONE WAS BROUGHT FROM THE OUTSIDE, WHICH IS THE PROJECTS MANAGER. OKAY. AND THE CITY ENGINEER, ACTUALLY, THAT POSITION HAD BEEN IN PLACE ALL OF THIS CURRENT YEAR. YEP. SO IT'S NOT A NEW POSITION. WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO ANIMAL CONTROL. ANIMAL CONTROL. WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON THERE IS WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN, IN AND OUT FOR GRANT REVENUE AND GRANT REVENUE EXPENSE. OUR PET ADOPTION GOES THROUGH. I BELIEVE IT'S SEPTEMBER 30TH. THE PET THE PET ADOPTION JUST TO THE END OF THE YEAR, ACTUALLY TO DECEMBER. THAT'S RIGHT. YES. END OF DECEMBER. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT NUMBER IS ALWAYS BASED ON WHAT'S LEFT OF THE GRANT. AND HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO SPEND IT? SO THAT THAT NUMBER YOU CAN'T REALLY LOOK AT YEAR AFTER YEAR. IT'S JUST WHAT'S LEFT WHAT WE HAVE TO SPEND. THEY'RE WELL AWARE OF IT. THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO GO SPEND ALL OF IT. SO REALLY QUICK ON THIS GRANT. THIS GRANT IS JUST SPECIFICALLY FOR SHELTER ANIMALS. AND THAT'S WHERE WE DO THE FREE ADOPTIONS. SO THIS GRANT HELPS PAY FOR THE SPAYED AND NEUTERED. YOU KNOW, ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT WELL, BEDS, FOOD KITS THAT, THAT WE, THAT GO WITH THE PETS. SO YES, THIS PAYS FOR THAT. YEP. AND SO OVERALL, THE BUDGET'S EXPECTED TO INCREASE BY 29, 29,000, WHICH IS ABOUT 6%. AND THIS IS LEWIS ON THE SALARY. THIS IS CONSIDERING THE VACANCY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME. YES. IF YOU'VE TALKED TO RITCHIE ABOUT IT IN THERE. SO THIS SHOULD BE IN IT. THIS SHOULD BE CONSIDERING THE THE FULL TIME EMPLOYEE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? YEAH. FOR THE ADDITIONAL VACANCY RIGHT. AS YOU MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY ALWAYS YOU ALWAYS CUT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION A VACANT INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, AS YOU MENTIONED, NOT FROZEN BUT VACANT. RIGHT. YEAH. IT'S ALWAYS, BUT THIS WAS, BUT THIS WAS REALLY IN ADDITION, BECAUSE HISTORICALLY WE'VE HAD TWO OFFICERS AND ONE. SO WHEN WE DID THE MID-YEAR BUDGET, WE PUT THAT THERE IN THE CORNER. RIGHT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? SO WE WE WERE PLANNING FOR, FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR COMING. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT POSITION WAS THERE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ACCOUNTED FOR SINCE THAT'S THE VARIANCE. YEAH. RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH. PLUS VOLUNTEERS. NEXT IS C AND G. THERE'S NOT MUCH OF A CHANGE THERE, JUST A SMALL INCREASE OF COST. IF WE HAVE SOME FUEL COSTS, WHICH JUST FEELS MORE EXPENSIVE. SO THAT'S WHAT WAS BUDGETED FOR THERE. JUST REAL QUICK ON THE I'M GOING BACK TO THE ANIMAL CONTROL ON THE ON THE ENGINEERING, ON THE GROUP INSURANCE, IT WENT UP. RIGHT. AND ON THIS ONE, IT WENT DOWN. SHOULDN'T SHOULDN'T IT BE GOING THE OTHER WAY? I CAN LOOK INTO THAT FOR, FOR LEWIS. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF I CAN LOOK INTO THAT ONE. I COULD I COULD HAVE TYPED IT WRONG. OKAY, I'LL DO THAT. YOU SAID GROUP INSURANCE. YEAH. OKAY. YOU DON'T. YEAH. THAT'S MY NUMBER. AND AND YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION BECAUSE AGAIN, THE OUTPUT FROM TONIGHT IS A LIST OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AND MAKE SURE WE GOT OUR NUMBERS RIGHT HERE. SO HOPEFULLY ON THE ON THE 2ND OF MAY, WE'LL COME BACK WITH ALL THOSE THINGS ANSWERED AND CORRECTED AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THE COUNCIL WILL NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT ADOPTION OF THE OF THE BUDGET. OKAY. SO ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT YOU NOT NECESSARILY EVEN TONIGHT THAT YOU SEE OVER THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO THAT THAT SPARKS A QUESTION. PLEASE FEED IT BACK THROUGH ME OR, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY THROUGH THE CLERK AND, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THOSE ARE ADDRESSED AT THE MAY 2ND OR I'M SORRY, JUNE, I LOST A MONTH THERE. JUNE 2ND MEETING. YEAH. WISHFUL THINKING. I HAD ANOTHER MONTH. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. DID ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE KANJI? ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS? NO. I'LL HAVE A COMMENT. SO THE KANJI IS OUR FUELING STATION. THE CITY OWNS THAT AND OPERATES IT. IT'S A SOURCE OF CONSTANT TROUBLE. IT'S VALUABLE TO HAVE. [01:00:01] SO WE HAVE A PLACE TO FUEL OUR CNG VEHICLES. THE OTHER FOLKS IN TOWN WHO HAVE BEEN USING IT IN THE PAST ARE LARGELY NOW BECOME ACCUSTOMED TO RELYING ON OTHER STATIONS. WE CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO TO EITHER PARTNER OR OUTSOURCE THAT ASSET SO THAT IT'S SO IT'S NOT A DRAIN. IT OPERATES IN ITS OWN ENTERPRISE, BUT IT'S IT MAY HAVE SEEN ITS BEST DAYS BEHIND IT. IT'S THE EQUIPMENT IS OLD. IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND PEOPLE TO WORK ON IT. THEY JUST THERE AREN'T MANY PEOPLE THAT WORK ON OUR VINTAGE OF, OF STATIONS. SO WE CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR CREATIVE WAYS TO SOLVE THAT, BUT FOR NOW WE'RE STUCK WITH IT. SO IF I MAY ADD, I'M NOT SURE. IT'S JUST SO HAPPENED EARLIER TODAY RENEWABLE FUELS REACHED OUT AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN SET UP A MEETING TOMORROW AND THEN MAYBE BRING BACK SOME TO THE COUNCIL. THEY HAVE A PROPOSAL FOR US. SO AGAIN, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR, WITH CNG TO HAVE SOMEONE LOCAL OR NEARBY TO, TO HELP US OUT ON THAT. SO HOPEFULLY THEY CAN HELP OUT AND WE HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS ON THE NEXT GO AROUND. THAT'S, THAT IS GOOD NEWS. SO WE'LL HIT ONE OF THOSE EVENTUALLY. EVERYBODY GOOD? KARINA? YES. YOU'RE GOOD. GREAT. AND SO THE NEXT. YEAH. GO AHEAD. NEXT ONE. FACILITIES AND FACILITIES. ACTUALLY, THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THIS IS ONE OF THE ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF WASCO WHERE THE TOTAL COST OF THIS DEPARTMENT GETS SPREAD OUT TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. AND SO AT THE BOTTOM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS ZERO. AND THAT'S BECAUSE I'M MOVING ALL THE COSTS OUT. BUT GRANTED, SAY I DON'T MOVE ALL THE COSTS OUT. THE TOTAL EXPENSES ARE $506,000, 507. AND LAST YEAR IT WAS 577. SO IT ACTUALLY GOES DOWN SLIGHTLY. SO JUST BY 70 GRAND. AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH SALARIES. SO SOMEBODY MUST HAVE MOVED DEPARTMENTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE DID MOVE. WE DID MOVE SOMEONE OUT. YEAH. THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE INTERNAL PROMOTIONS OUT OF FACILITIES INTO THE PLANNING OR PROJECT MANAGEMENT POSITION. YEAH. AND BESIDES THAT, AS FAR AS OPERATIONAL COSTS OF DAY TO DAY ACTIVITY, EVERYTHING'S STAYING PRETTY CONSISTENT. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS SORAYA? NO. MR. RIJINO. NO QUESTIONS. NO QUESTIONS FOR ME. WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT. LANDSCAPE IS IS IT LANDSCAPES? NEXT. YES. YES. YEP. PERFECT. OKAY. GREAT. WELL THIS YEAR IT LOOKS LIKE IF WE IF WE KEEP ON TREND WITH PROJECTED REVENUES THAT BASED ON A REDUCTION OF SALARY ALSO THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE IN THE POSITIVE 25,000. SO I'M NOT SURE IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN DONE WITH A SALARY SPLIT. IT MAY HAVE SALARY SPLIT. SO THIS IS ALL JUST ELEMENT IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH. WE DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL DEPARTMENT DOES LANDSCAPING. THIS ACTUALLY GOES IN THE STREETS. YEAH. SO IT'S COMBINED TOGETHER. SO DO ALL YOUR GREENBELTS THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS DEPARTMENT LIES IN WHERE IT SAYS MATERIAL SUPPLIES. AND IT'S GOT LIKE NUMBER ONE. NUMBER 1-101 IS FOR DIFFERENT. SO THOSE ARE SO DIFFERENT SECTIONS. YOU KNOW, IT'S DEPENDING ON LIKE ATTRACT 70, 73, 73, THE NEWEST TRACK THAT CAME UP. SO THAT WILL HAVE WHAT THEY CALL A CFD. NOW IS THAT CORRECT? CFD NOW, WHICH BASICALLY THE SAME AS ALL MD IN A SENSE. SO THE MONEY IS ALLOCATED TO THAT ACCOUNT. THAT HELPS FOR ANY REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE IN THOSE AREAS. WHAT'S THE, THE, WHAT DOES IT STAND FOR? LIGHT LIGHTING. LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE. DISTRICT. DISTRICT. YEAH, I JUST WANTED. SO. GOOD. NO. GO AHEAD. MR.. RIJINO. EVERY YEAR. FOR THE COST OF LIVING. BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF WE HAVE A 25,000? THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE COLLECTING MORE THAN WE'RE COLLECTING. AND I HEARD I HEARD SOMEONE SAY THAT IT IS POSITION THAT IS VACANT. WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THAT? SO I'LL TAKE A STAB AT THAT. [01:05:03] I DON'T RECALL THIS HAPPENING BEFORE, WHERE WE'VE HAD A CREDIT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LANDSCAPE ALLOCATION. SO I DON'T THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. SO WE'RE GOING TO CHECK AND SEE. MY GUESS IS THAT THE, THE CREDIT WOULD BE ALLOCATED BACK INTO THIS YEAR'S STUDY FOR SETTING NEXT YEAR'S RATES. AND IT WOULD IT WOULD WASH OUT. THAT'S MY GUESS. BUT I'M HAPPY TO BE CORRECTED ONCE, ONCE WE GET INTO THAT PROCESS. AND MY ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER LOOKS LIKE SHE HAS SOME MORE INFORMATION, I MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION. COUNCIL MEMBER REYNA I WAS SITTING I KNOW THAT OUR CITY ENGINEER IS NOW DOING THE ENGINEER REPORT. IN THE PAST WE WERE PAYING OUR OUTSIDE ENGINEER, I BELIEVE HE WAS DOING THE ENGINEERING REPORT, AND THAT WAS FOR APPROXIMATELY A LITTLE OVER 30 K IF I REMEMBER RIGHT. LEWIS. SO THIS MIGHT BE A SAVINGS THAT WE'RE SAVING BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THE REPORT INSIDE, BUT IT SHOULD REALLY BE A TRANSFER OUT TO THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IF OUR DEPARTMENT'S DOING IT. NOW, IF THAT DEPARTMENT'S DOING THAT REPORT, RIGHT? YEAH, BUT WE'LL LOOK MORE INTO IT. AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO AFTER YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT, THAT OUR CITY ENGINEER NOW TAKES THAT ON. HE DID IT LAST YEAR. HE'S DOING IT THIS YEAR. AND YES, IT, IT COST SAVINGS ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO $30,000 ALONE. SO YES, THIS YEAR WE'LL SEE THAT SAME SAVINGS. BUT I WASN'T TOO SURE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT ALLOCATION GOES TO THIS OR IS IN THE RIGHT SPOT. SO YEAH. OKAY. THIS IS WHERE WE LOOK AT SALARIES. AND SO NOT MOST, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE'S SALARIES THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY 100% IN ONE DEPARTMENT. AND SO THIS IS WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CITY ENGINEER SALARY SPLIT AND SEE IF IF THAT HIS SALARY SHOULD BE GOING HERE NOW OR WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE SPLIT GOING HERE CONSIDERING HE'S DOING THE WORK FOR IT. SO WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THAT SPLIT. THE OTHER LINE ITEM WOULD BE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, WHERE I WAS GETTING PAID OUT OF AND IT HAS NOT DROPPED. SO TO, TO MRS LARA'S POINT THAT MAY BE THE APPROPRIATE THING IS TO DO A TRANSFER FOR THOSE ENGINEERING SERVICES INTERNALLY INSTEAD OF EXTERNALLY. BUT WE'LL, WE'LL GET THAT RESOLVED AND CLARIFIED. AND THAT'LL BE ONE OF THE THINGS WE BRING BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING. RIGHT. GOOD CATCH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP IS SHOP. SHOP AND SHOP IS ALSO ONE OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS WHERE 100% OF THEIR COSTS GET ALLOCATED OUT. BUT YEAR OVER YEAR, IT LOOKS LIKE THE COSTS ARE GOING DOWN JUST ABOUT $23,000, PARTIALLY DUE TO SALARIES. SO PROBABLY PROBABLY SOMEBODY MOVED APARTMENTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. NO, WE SO WE'D HAVE TO LOOK BACK INTO THIS JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. I KNOW WE DO A LOT OF COST SAVINGS. AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE ON THE LAST MEETING WHERE A LOT OF OUR EQUIPMENT IS BEING REPAIRED IN-HOUSE. SO YEAH, LET'S JUST, WE'LL LOOK AT THIS, WE'LL LOOK AT THE SALARY SPLITS. YEP. ON THE OTHER SLIDE, I SEEN BOUTTE ALLOWANCES WAS FOR $300. AND ON THIS ONE IT'S 600. WHY IS THAT. SO JUST DEPENDING ON. SO THEY GET A CERTAIN STIPEND WHICH IS $300 A PIECE. SO THEY ONLY HAVE TWO EMPLOYEES IN THAT DEPARTMENT. SO IT'S JUST THE $600. AND THAT'S AUTOMATICALLY PAID OUT. HEY $600. THAT'S A BETTER BOUTTE. YEP. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S THERE'S WORK BOOTS AND THEN THERE'S DANCING BOOTS. YEAH. CROCODILE WORK BOOTS. CROCODILE. SO THE NEXT ONE WE HAVE FOR LEWIS IS STREETS. AND STREETS IS GOING TO INCREASE PRIMARILY DUE TO WE HAVE SALARIES AND INTERNAL INTERNAL COSTS AND INTERNAL COSTS AND SALARIES. SO THAT'S LOOKING TO INCREASE ABOUT 365 365,000. A LOT OF THE COSTS THAT ARE OPERATIONAL WISE SORT OF REMAIN THE SAME WITH SMALL INCREASES. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE THERE. AND I HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE CIP BOOKED ELSEWHERE BECAUSE THAT WAS FOR A PARTICULAR PROJECT. [01:10:02] AND PER THE CIP BOOKLET THAT WAS PROVIDED, IT DIDN'T SAY IT WAS MEASURE X FUNDED. IT SAID IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. SO THAT'S WHY I TOOK IT OUT OF THE STREETS DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE IT SAID IT WAS BEING FUNDED FROM SOME SOME OTHER SOURCE ON THAT PROJECT. WHAT HSR DID THE PROJECT START? I HAVE TO LOOK BACK INTO IT BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE BUDGET BOOK LAST YEAR. BUT THAT THAT'S NOT THAT'S A THAT'S A MEASURE X PROJECT NUMBER. IT'S NOT ONE OF OUR PROJECTS NUMBERS. THAT'S WHY I THINK I SAW IT ON THE BUDGET, BUT IT, I JUST SAW IT BASED ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. SO I CAN LOOK BACK INTO THAT ONE TOO. WE'LL DO THAT ONCE LOOKED ELSEWHERE. THANK YOU, MR. MEDINA. WHAT WAS THE THE IT SERVICE INCREASE SO WHEN IT COST INCREASE. YEAH. LIKE SALARIES INCREASE. YOU KNOW, IF THEY BUY A LOT OF EQUIPMENT, LIKE MAYBE SOME PRINTERS, YOU KNOW, SO THEY MAY BE ENCODED TO OUR DEPARTMENT, BUT WHEN OVERALL IT COSTS INCREASE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS WHO SHARE THAT COST, THAT ALSO INCREASES BECAUSE WE ALLOCATE 100% OF ITS BUDGET TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE SPREAD TOOL, BASICALLY. YEAH. THE, THE OTHER THING THAT CAN HAPPEN IS WE CAN MAKE REFINEMENTS TO THE ALLOCATION FORMULA. SO IF THE STAFF COUNT IN A PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT CHANGES, WE MAY RAISE OR REDUCE THE ALLOCATION. OR THERE'S A PIECE OF SPECIALTY HARDWARE OR SOFTWARE THAT'S ADDED THAT'S UNIQUE TO THAT DEPARTMENT THAN A LARGER ALLOCATION. GOTCHA. OKAY. SO WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT ALLOCATION AND REDEFINE IT HOW WE SEE FIT FOR SURE. ARE YOU GOOD? MR. RIJINO I AM. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. AND STORMWATER HAS A MINIMAL CHANGES. AN INCREASE OF $21,000 OR 11%. AFTER SEEING ALL THESE SLIDES, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. CAN WE SEE GRAPHS OF THE GENERAL FUNDS TRENDS. LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT GOES UP, GOES DOWN OR WHICHEVER WAY WE COULD AS SOON AS WE HAVE MORE SOLID REPORTED NUMBERS. SO WE'RE NOT DONE WITH 25. THERE'S A LOT STILL LEFT TO BE BOOKED. SO WHAT WE SEE IN ACTUALS AREN'T, AREN'T AREN'T THERE YET. BUT AS SOON AS WE CLOSE 25 AND GET CLOSER TO CLOSING 26, I DO EXPECT MAYBE ONCE WE GET THOSE TWO THINGS DONE, GET A MID-YEAR, A MID-YEAR MEETING DONE SOONER RATHER THAN OBVIOUSLY AS LATE AS WE DID IT HERE. LIKE SCOTT SAID, YOU KNOW, IN LATE FALL OR WHATEVER, WE'D HAVE MORE SOLID NUMBERS, BUT THEY'RE NOT ALL IN THE SYSTEM YET. YOU KNOW, LIKE, ONCE YOU HAVE EVERYTHING TOGETHER, CAN WE HAVE A THANK YOU? I'D BE A HAPPY CAMPER, A HAPPY CAMPER. ONCE 25 IS DONE AND AUDITED. AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH 26 AND GETTING IT TO. IT MAY TAKE MORE THAN ONE MEETING TO TO GET ALL THAT INFORMATION. IT WILL AS EACH ONE CLOSES. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THAT TAKES CARE OF STREETS. AND SO I THOUGHT WE'LL LET SOME. I'LL GET A COUPLE OTHER. LET'S SEE IF I WANT TO PICK FIRST. ALL RIGHT. LET'S DO THAT ONE. HE NEEDS TO TALK. WE'LL MOVE TO POLICE. WE'LL MOVE TO POWELL AND PD. SURE. DO YOU HAVE THAT ONE UP, MARIA THIS IS PELHAM, PLEASE. YEAH. SHE'S JUST. YEAH, WE CAN START WITH POWELL. DID SHE GIVE YOU ONE? YEAH, I HAVE HER. I'LL TAKE ONE. OH, YOU KNOW WHAT. I'LL JUST LOOK AT YOUR. EXPENSE MONEY THAT WAS USED FOR SOMETHING. EACH EXPENSE FOLLOWS DONATION REVENUE. SO RIGHT NOW FOR DONATION EXPENSE. IF THEY. IF THEY WANT US. SO UP ABOVE, THERE'S A BUDGET FOR DONATIONS. [01:15:02] IF THEY IF THEY GET THE DONATIONS IN, THEY'LL SPEND THEM. IF THEY DON'T GET THE DONATIONS. THE DONATIONS? YEAH. YES. SO WE'RE THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR WE'VE HAD A FULL CLOSED YEAR ON, ON THIS ISSUE. MR.. RIJINO. SO WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION ALREADY ABOUT IS THERE A MORE INTUITIVE WAY TO, TO TRACK AND DISPLAY THIS. AND MY GUESS IS THERE IS WE JUST HAVEN'T FIGURED THAT OUT YET. BUT YOU CAN LOOK FORWARD TO A MUCH MORE CLEARER ACCOUNTING OF HOW THE DONATIONS WORK IN PAL. BUT IT'S A LARGE PART OF THEIR STORY OVER THERE. I MEAN, THAT'S VERY, VERY FASCINATING TO SEE. THAT I'M RIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, WE FIND A. SO ANY QUESTIONS ON POWELL. ANY QUESTIONS. YEAH I'M LOOKING AT THE CELL AND. IT'S GOING DOWN BY $400. AND I'M SO CURIOUS ABOUT THIS ONE. 34 MONTHS. SO I CAN ADDRESS PART OF THAT ONE IS LAST YEAR WAS THE STARTUP YEAR. SO THE OFFICE EXPENSE WERE ONE TIME OFFICE FURNITURE AND SUPPLIES AND THINGS THAT NOW THOSE ARE ESTABLISHED WHO DON'T HAVE TO REPEAT THOSE EXPENSES. THE CELL PHONE, THE CHIEF, I DON'T KNOW. DID WE HAVE A SPARE AND NOW IT'S GONE. SO I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT MAYBE THERE'S A PHONE IN THERE. MANNY IN HER OFFICE. NOW, I WOULDN'T I DON'T KNOW WHETHER SOAP INTRODUCED BUT JUST ONE CELL PHONE FOR HER. DOES DOES HER OFFICE HAVE A CELL PHONE? A PHONE, YOU KNOW, FOR DIANA POWELL? SHE DOES HAVE A PHONE. YEAH. AND SHE HAS A CELL PHONE. MAYBE THAT'S WHAT'S OFFSETTING THE THE. YEAH. SO NOW SHE'S ON THE CITY SYSTEM. YEAH. IT'S NOT, IT'S JUST IT'S NOTICEABLE. RIGHT. YOU GOOD? WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ONE WILL GIVE YOU SOME TIME TO LOOK AT. OVER, BECAUSE IT'S THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THERE'S QUITE A FEW LINE ITEMS AND THERE'S A SUPPLEMENTAL SCHEDULE RIGHT BEHIND IT. WHERE CHIEF GOES AHEAD AND DETAILS OUT. ON PAGE TWO, HE HAS $304,000 OF COMPUTER SOFTWARE, WHICH IS QUITE HIGH. AND I'M SURE YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT'S COMPRISED OF. SO THE, THE NEXT SHEET SHOWS WHAT IT'S ALL FOR, WHAT SHE DOES THAT. TRACY. THIS ONE. OKAY. OH, THERE'S ANOTHER EXCEL FILE FROM JUST OUTSIDE. IT LOOKS. IT'S THE ONLY ONE WITH A WEIRD NAME ON IT. CAN YOU SEE THAT? MR.. RIJINO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO. THAT THAT IS. DIFFERENT. YES, THAT. THAT IS CORRECT. WHAT'S NINA. IS THAT AN ACRONYM FOR SOMETHING OR. IT IS IT IS FOR DISPATCHES. IT'S SOME SORT OF A SUBSCRIPTION ASSOCIATION FOR THEM. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT STANDS FOR THOUGH. I WAS WONDERING. I'M TRYING TO COME UP WITH A MEANING HERE. YEAH. ME TOO. NATIONAL EMERGENCY. SOMETHING. ASSOCIATION. YEP. THERE YOU GO. I'M GUESSING. THANK. [01:20:13] YOU, MR.. MEDINA. SORAYA. YEAH. ARE YOU OKAY, MR. ARENA? CAN I MOVE THE SHEET? OKAY. DO YOU NEED ME TO SCROLL DOWN ON THIS ONE? YES. LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU NEED ME TO SCROLL DOWN. IT IS THE SAME AS THE OTHER SHEET THERE. THEY'RE SIMILAR. THEY'RE THERE. THE PDS SHARE OF AN OUTSIDE CIP, OR IN THE CASE OF THE PD FIRING RANGE, IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF AN UNUSUAL ONE WHERE THE ENTIRE CIP WAS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT IT STILL IS GOING OUT TO THAT CI THAT THAT AMOUNT IS GOING OUT TO THE CIP BEFORE IT'S SPENT. OKAY. YES. SHE WAS. THIS IS A CORRECT. HERE YOU GO, MR. MEDINA. MR.. RIGHT. I'M GOOD MYSELF. CONTINUE. GOOD. THANK YOU. ALL YOUR FUN STUFF. OH, YEAH. WELL, WHAT AN EASY, EASY ONE. MARIE, DO YOU MIND DOING IT? OH, YES. I DON'T WANT TO. GO AHEAD AND DO COMMUNITY. SINCE YOU'RE AT IT. WE'LL LET KERI OFF NOW. COME ON, COME ON. MAYBE THAT'S OKAY. I DON'T THINK I WROTE ANY. HOLD ON, PAL. SO. YEAH. SO, RAINA, I JUST WANT TO ADD, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE CELL PHONE. SO IT WAS WHEN I DO LOOK AT THE GENERAL LEDGER TO SEE WHAT'S BEEN CODED THERE, SOMETHING LIKE HER CELL PHONE THAT'S RUNNING $31 A MONTH. AND IT WAS JUST PREVIOUSLY BUDGETED REALLY HIGH. AND THAT WAS THE ONLY THING EVER BEING CODED THERE FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. SO THAT'S WHY I REDUCED IT. IT'S STILL ENOUGH MONEY TO COVER A BUFFER, BUT SOMETIMES I DO LOOK INTO THE GL TO JUST, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT'S ACTUALLY BEING CODED THERE. SO I JUST CONFIRMED IT RIGHT THERE. THANK YOU. YEAH. READY FOR IT. DO YOU HAVE IT UP? THERE'S A LARGE AMOUNT. NO. THE SERVICE, THE DIAMOND. IT IS THE LAST ONE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT. THAT'S 155 A YEAR. AND. THE PROFESSIONAL. SERVICE FEES IS BECAUSE BECAUSE IT'S BUDGET IS ONE OF THOSE BUDGETS THAT GETS DISPERSED BETWEEN ALL MULTIPLE ORGAN MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS. SO SO BASICALLY THE SERVICE FEES EQUAL 100% OF THE COST OF IT. SO ALL OF THE COSTS OF IT EQUALS 663. THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DISPERSE AND TAKE TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS FOR AN EXPENSE. SO ON OTHER DEPARTMENTS YOU'LL SEE THE LINE ITEM IT EXPENSE. THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MOVED ON. I'M BEHIND. YEAH, I THINK WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S AN EXPENSE. BUT I THINK WHAT MR. RIJINO WAS ASKING WAS MORE OF THE THE INCREASE. RIGHT. BECAUSE OVERALL BUDGETED WAS 400,000 AND WE GOT A PROPOSAL OF 663. SO HE JUST. WELL, I THINK WE'RE WANTING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE VARIANCE IS. [01:25:03] WHY WHY THE BIG JUMP. IS IT BECAUSE OF. OH, IT'S BECAUSE IF YOU NOTICE ON FISCAL YEAR 26, THE BUDGET THAT WAS PUT INTO THE SYSTEM. IT DOESN'T NET TO ZERO. IT SHOULD NET TO ZERO. IT SHOULD. IT'S IF YOU CAN SEE DOWN THAT LINE, IT SHOWS $202,000 OF EXPENSE. THAT EXPENSE PER THE BUDGET SHOULD HAVE THEY SHOULD HAVE BUDGETED THAT $200,000 TO BE ALLOCATED TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. AND IT WASN'T. SO IF YOU HAD THOSE TWO NUMBERS TOGETHER, YOU'RE BACK TO THE SIX SIX AND CHANGE. OKAY. SO THAT'S ONE OF MY CHECK FIGURES ON DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ORGS LIKE IT, AND SHOPS AND FACILITIES THAT WE DO TAKE OUT AND DISPERSE. 100% OF THE OPERATING COST OF THE OTHER ORGS. BECAUSE IF YOU PROCEED LIKE THIS, 25 IS STILL OPEN, SO IT WILL BE BOOKED CORRECTLY IN THE GENERAL LEDGER TO REALLY MOVE IT OUT. IT JUST WASN'T BUDGETED THAT WAY. GOTCHA. OKAY. SO. EVERYTHING BESIDES THAT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD ON IT. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME. ANY ANY QUESTIONS? ANY MORE QUESTIONS? MR.. MR.. MR.. MEDINA. NO. MR.. RIJINO. NO. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE TO PLANNING. THIS IS. SCROLL BACK UP A LITTLE BIT. THIS IS PERMANENT. I NEED TO GO TO. ONE. ONE. TWO. FIVE. PLANNING REMAINS RELATIVELY CONSISTENT WITH AN INCREASED COST OF $26,000. AND THAT'S MAINLY DUE. WELL IT'S NOT IT'S DUE TO OTHER COSTS. THE ONE ITEM WHERE YOU SEE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES REIMBURSE THOSE COSTS WILL ACTUALLY BE REIMBURSED. SO THE, THE MAIN REASON FOR THE INCREASE IS THE INCREASE OF IT SERVICE FEES, FACILITY SERVICE FEES AND G&A COST ALLOCATION. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? ARE YOU GOOD? MR.. RIJINO. WE'RE GOOD. OH, WELL, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE NEXT ONE. I REALLY DID HAVE PRINTING ISSUES, I TRUST ME. KERI HELPED ME SO MUCH. SO THANK YOU. BUT BUILDING THE TOTAL. I'M SO SORRY. GOES ON TO THE SECOND PAGE. BUT BUILDING HAS AN INCREASED COST OF $31,000. I THINK. KERI DID I GET YOUR UNIFORM ALLOWANCE WRONG? DID IT MEANT TO BE 3000? NOW THAT I'M LOOKING AT THIS. OH, YES. OKAY. THERE YOU GO. THE THE BUDGET IS THE SAME. I JUST NOTICED I. YEAH, I DIDN'T THINK SO. OKAY. WHY DON'T YOU TAKE IT TO THE BEST DRESSED BUILDING INSPECTOR YOU'VE EVER SEEN? I WAS GOING TO SAY WHAT? OKAY. ONCE YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, IT'S PRETTY MUCH VERY SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR. I WILL MAKE THAT CHANGE. WE'LL BE HIRING A FULL TIME TAILOR. YEAH. LAUNDRY SERVICE. LAUNDRY? YES. DO YOU NEED ME TO SCROLL DOWN, MISS SERENA? YES, PLEASE. BIG DIFFERENCE THERE. YES. THAT AGAIN THAT VERY SIMILAR TO PLANNING. ALL OF THAT IS REIMBURSED PLUS 25% IN OUR FEES. BUT WE DID QUITE A BIT MORE PLAN CHECK THIS YEAR. AND SO I'VE INCREASED THAT BUDGET JUST ANTICIPATING THAT OUR PLAN CHECK COSTS HAVE HAVE GONE UP. BUT AGAIN, ALL ALL OF THERE'S MATCHING REVENUE FOR THAT BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE FEES GET PASSED THROUGH AT 100% PLUS 25% ADMIN FEE. JUST TO. ENSURE THAT WE SEND OUT A LOT OF OUR. WE'VE USED TO. CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. [01:30:07] YEAH. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS MYSELF. SO WE'LL MOVE ON. CODE COMPLIANCE. ON CODE COMPLIANCE. INCREASED BUDGET OF $61,000. MAYBE MAINLY DUE TO SALARIES AND GROUP INSURANCE. AND OTHER COSTS REMAINS SIMILAR. WEED ABATEMENT FOR A CODE COMPLIANCE. HOW DOES THAT WHAT IS THAT? HOW DOES THAT FIT IN TO THE CODE COMPLIANCE? SO THAT'S FOR BOTH WEED ABATEMENT AND OTHER OTHER ABATEMENTS. IF WE RUN INTO A SITUATION WITH THE PROPERTY AND WE CAN'T GET THE PROPERTY OWNER TO COOPERATE OR PARTICIPATE, WE'LL, WE'LL GO IN AND DO THE ABATEMENT AND THEN CLEAN THE PROPERTY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE MONEY FOR THAT. THANK YOU. OR IF WE HAVE TO DEMO A BUILDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY BASED ON PREVIOUS YEARS, I'M SORRY. THE SAVINGS ON WHICH ONE? OH, THE RETIREMENT. THE RETIREMENT BENEFIT. I'M NOT SURE. I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT ONE, TOO. I'LL. I'LL SEE WHOSE SALARY IS GETTING ALLOCATED THERE. NO ONE OVER THERE IS ALLOWED TO RETIRE, SO. MAYOR MEDINA YOU GOOD? SOFTWARE? YES. THAT I THINK WAS BASED ON THE NUMBERS. MANNI FROM YOU ON THE OFFICE 365 AND THE PHONES. YEAH. SO AN ADOBE THERE'S SOME SOME DECREASE FROM I THINK WHAT I BUDGETED LAST YEAR BASED ON, BASED ON THE NUMBERS MANNI GAVE ME, THE OTHER SOFTWARE THAT WE PURCHASED IN THAT DEPARTMENT IS THE, THE MYGOV. THAT'S THE MYGOV SUBSCRIPTION AS WELL? NO QUESTIONS. WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ONE IS A THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND I'LL LET. AND THEN THERE'S TWO MAIN COSTS THERE. I'LL LET CARRIE GO OVER THOSE. SURE. THE INCREASE AND I THINK I MENTIONED THIS IN OUR STRATEGIC MEETING IS FOR ADDITIONAL ARTWORK IN THE DOWNTOWN. THAT WOULD INCLUDE POTENTIAL PAINT. WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD ONE PERSON TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PAINT PROGRAM THIS YEAR. BUT THAT, THAT KEEPS THAT PROGRAM KIND OF MOVING FORWARD. SO THAT'S WHAT THE INCREASE IN THE MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES BUDGET IS. AND THEN IN COMPUTER SOFTWARE. NO, IT'S NO, IT'S JUST THE 84 SIR. IT'S THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE WITH CHRIS. COM. YEAH SO THE 84 IS THE CHRIS. COM RIGHT. SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO. KERI. AND TRACY IS I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THE RETAIL STRATEGIES IN THAT SLOT ON THE PRIOR YEAR. AND MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE IT WAS PREPAID. WHAT IS THAT? WHAT EXPENSE? THAT WAS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. RETAIL STRATEGIES WAS A SUBSCRIPTION. BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE, WE PAID FOR IT WITH ARPA AND WE PAID 2 OR 3 YEARS AHEAD. SO YOU THINK THERE'S A, A PREPAID EXPENSE SITTING ON THE BALANCE SHEET? I THINK IT EXPLAINS WHY 84 CAME FROM ZERO. I THINK THERE WAS ONE THIRD OF THE THREE YEAR DEAL FROM RETAIL STRATEGY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES ROW IF THEY WERE BOOKED BY FISCAL YEAR CORRECTLY, BUT BECAUSE IT WAS ARPA FUNDING, IT MAY HAVE ALL BEEN EXPENSED IN THAT FIRST YEAR. YEAH. OKAY. I'LL LOOK INTO IT. OKAY. BUT FOR COUNCIL'S BENEFIT, THAT'S THAT'S IT'S ACTUALLY WAS A, AN OVERALL REDUCTION IN OUTSIDE CONSULTING SERVICES VERSUS THE RETAIL STRATEGIES AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD TO CHANGE TO CRISCO. I THINK I'M NOT LYING ABOUT THAT. I THINK THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. IT WAS OUR REDUCTION. OKAY. I THINK THERE WAS A PROJECT NUMBER. I WOULD NEVER I WOULD NEVER LIE ABOUT IT. [01:35:03] I MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE SAID I MAY BE MISTAKEN. I THINK, TRACY, IF I'M REMEMBERING RIGHT, THERE WAS A PROJECT NUMBER ASSOCIATED WITH THE RETAIL STRATEGIES BECAUSE IT WAS ARPA FUNDED. SO THAT MIGHT BE, THAT MIGHT BE AND THAT MIGHT HAVE JUST DROPPED OFF AND GONE AWAY. I THINK CORRECTLY, WHAT HAPPENED. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING TRACY IS HERE TO HELP US DO CORRECTLY AND BETTER AND LEARN AND LEARN. SO. AND THEN THE COMPUTER SOFTWARE WOULD BE THE PLACER AI. THE COUNCIL APPROVED. YOU GOOD, MR. MEDINA? YES. MR.. RIJINO. YES, YES, WE'RE ALL GOOD. AND THE NEXT ONE, KERI WITH THE PERMANENT LOCAL HOUSING AUTHORITY. I JUST ON THE GRANT REVENUE THERE. NEED YOUR HELP ON GETTING A REVISED GRANT NUMBER FOR YOU, BECAUSE I KNOW WE FUND HER SALARY. I CAN'T REMEMBER IF WE FUND HER SALARY AND WHAT OTHER COSTS WE ALSO GET FROM THAT GRANT REVENUE. WE FUND THE ENTIRE OPERATION, THE ENTIRE OPERATION WITH THE GRANT. OKAY. CORRECT. SO THE ENTIRE GRANT REVENUE FOR THE LOCAL HOUSING AUTHORITY WILL BE 100% OF ALL THESE COSTS. YES. THAT'S CORRECT. AND OKAY. WELL, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY, YEAH, WE CAN WORK ON THIS, BUT THAT SHOULD ACTUALLY BE PERMANENT LOCAL HOUSING ALLOCATION. OH, ALLOCATION. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE THE. YEAH. THAT'S THE REVENUE ACCOUNT, CORRECT. OKAY. AND SO I'LL GET THAT REVENUE. SO. BESIDES THAT, WE'LL FIX THE REVENUE SIDE OF IT TO ENCOMPASS 100% OF ALL THE COSTS INCURRED HERE AND GET IT INTO THE RIGHT REVENUE ACCOUNT IN THE SYSTEM. BUT AS FAR AS THE EXPENSES ARE CONCERNED THERE ARE SOME REDUCTION IN SOME OF THE EXPENSES LIKE COMPUTER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND SOME OF THE COSTS DOWN BELOW. BUT OVERALL, THE INSURANCE INSURANCE INCREASE THE GROUP INSURANCE INCREASE IN SOME OF THE OTHER COSTS DECREASE, BUT ALL FUNDED. SO THAT'S GOOD. YEAH. AND COUNCIL'S CLEAR ON WHAT THAT IS. THAT'S THE HOMELESS OUTREACH PROGRAM. I APOLOGIZE. THE FUNDING SOURCE IS IS THE PERMANENT LOCAL HOUSING ALLOCATION. THAT'S MANDY. THE HOMELESS ARE HOMELESS OUTREACH COORDINATOR. SO HER ENTIRE OPERATION IS FUNDED THROUGH THIS PERMANENT LOCAL HOUSING ALLOCATION GRANT. MAYOR MEDINA. OH, GOOD. MR.. RIJINO. OUTSTANDING JOB. WORKING. FOR. THE STATE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE'LL PASS THAT ALONG. I AGREE. YEAH I AGREE MYSELF. VERY GOOD. DO WE NEED A ANY KIND OF A BREAK OR HOW ARE YOU GUYS? SHORT BREAK. I'M GOING TO ASK HIM. TEN MINUTES, FIVE MINUTES, FIVE MINUTES. TEN MINUTES. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. NOW WE CAN HEAR YOU. YES. YES, YES. LOUD AND CLEAR. OKAY. SO, YEAH, IT WASN'T THAT MY ENGLISH IS NOT. WHAT I WAS SAYING IS I WANT TO MAKE MY MICROPHONE SAY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THAT. SOUNDS GOOD. MR.. RIJINO. THANK YOU. MR. HURLBERT. OKAY. KICK BACK OFF WITH HUMAN RESOURCES. SO HUMAN RESOURCES HAD A LARGE BUDGET FOR 26 FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. AND THEY DIDN'T NEED ALL OF IT. SO THEY REDUCED IT FOR THE 25 OR FOR THE UPCOMING BUDGET AND THEY REDUCED IT DOWN TO TO 4500 INSTEAD OF 30,000. SO THEY HAD INCREASED IT FOR SOME REASON, AND THEN THEY DECIDED THEY DIDN'T NEED IT. SO THEY WENT AHEAD AND REDUCED IT. SO THIS COMING UP BUDGET FOR 27 FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WILL BE IN TREND WITH WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY PROJECTED FOR 26, WHICH IS $4,500. THAT'S THE MAJOR CHANGE. EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY CONSISTENT AND EACH YEAR BUDGET. [01:40:02] ANY QUESTIONS? MAYOR MEDINA. MR.. RIJINO. ANY QUESTIONS? HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR.. RIJINO. HE'S NEEDED. HE'S MUTED. YEAH. YEAH. HE SAID YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOOD. WHICH ONE'S THE NEXT ONE TRACY. CITY COUNCIL. CITY COUNCIL. YES. I DON'T HAVE THAT. THAT'S IN A DIFFERENT SPREADSHEET. OH, YEAH. HR IS A STANDALONE, SO I DON'T HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL ONE ON YOUR FILES HERE. CITY HALL, CITY HALL. OKAY. YEP. SORRY. CITY COUNCIL IS JUST THE FIRST HALF. YEP. THERE IT IS. SO A COMMENT ON THIS FOR COUNCIL TO EITHER ANSWER TONIGHT OR AT THE NEXT MEETING. THE NEAR THE BOTTOM THERE'S THE WATER DISCOUNT SUBSIDY, THE $60,000. THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT WAS STARTED MANY YEARS AGO, AND IT PROVIDES A UP TO $60,000 IN SUBSIDY FOR SENIOR CITIZEN WATER UTILITY BILLS. AND THAT'S BEEN. BUT IT DOES NEED TO BE POSITIVELY RENEWED EACH YEAR IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO CONTINUE WITH THAT. AND IT COMES FROM THIS BUDGET GENERAL FUND AND GETS TRANSFERRED INTO THE WATER ENTERPRISE SO THAT THE OTHER WATER RATEPAYERS DON'T DON'T ACTUALLY DO THE SUBSIDY. THE GENERAL FUND DOES. HOW MUCH OF THE 60,000 HAS ACTUALLY BEEN USED YEARLY? LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE A NUMBER? THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. I'M NOT SURE WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE ON OF THE 60,000 GETS USED. I DO NOT BELIEVE IT'S FULLY USED OR ANYWHERE NEAR, BUT IT'S A PLACEHOLDER AND IT'S A GOOD IDEA. I MEAN, I, I'M OKAY WITH IT. I DON'T KNOW IF MR. MEDINA. MR. RYAN DEAL WITH THAT. YEAH. MR. REYNA. YES, WE DO THIS YEAR AFTER YEAR. I THINK THAT. THEY. MENTIONED THAT IT'S PROBABLY NOT BE NEEDED FOR THREE YEARS. BUT CERTAINLY I AM IN FAVOR OF KEEPING IT. OKAY. SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS BRING BACK THE ACTUAL USAGE IF WE CAN GET IT FOR YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE IT TO RENEW FOR THIS COMING BUDGET YEAR. MORE THAN ONE YEAR IN, I WOULD PAINT A PICTURE FOR US AS TO HOW MUCH SHOULD BE USED HERE. YES, I WON'T, I WON'T OVER PROMISE FOR TRACY, BUT WE'LL WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DIG UP. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE READY. NO QUESTIONS. NEXT IS CITY MANAGER. DO YOU WANT TO BRING THAT ONE UP? MR. HURLBERT? KERI PRETTY FLAT HERE. NO LARGE PERCENTAGE SWINGS. AGAIN, EXPECTED CHANGES IN THE THE GROUP INSURANCE COST AND GENERAL TREND UPWARDS IN A LOT OF THE AREAS. BUT UNLESS THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING REMARKABLE THERE. MR.. RAY? MR. RIJINO GOOD. NO, NO. I'M GOOD. WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. CITY CLERK. CITY MANAGER. YOU WANT TO TAKE OVER? SURE. SIMILAR COMMENTS HERE, EXCEPT YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S ONE EXTRAORDINARY ITEM WITH THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES SHIFT. SO I WILL LET THE CITY CLERK TALK ABOUT THAT. [01:45:06] SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. YEAH. YES. OKAY. SO THE INCREASE FOR THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES IS WE'RE LOOKING INTO GETTING A PART TIME HELPER FOR HELPING US WITH THE SCANNING AND IMPLEMENTING OUR OUR USING OUR LASER PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR RECORDS. SO WE NEED SOMEONE TO HELP US AND GET THOSE DOCUMENTS SCANNED TO OUR RETENTION SYSTEM. SO THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN ONGOING FOR SEVERAL YEARS. YES. THE IMPLEMENTING OF AN ELECTRONIC DOCUMENT STORAGE IS, IS IMPORTANT JUST TO KEEP FROM BEING OVERWHELMED BY THE PAPER, BUT JUST FOR SAFETY. AND, AND WE'RE GETTING SO MANY MORE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS. HAVING MORE AND MORE OF OUR DOCUMENTS STORED ELECTRONICALLY IN THAT SYSTEM WILL HELP US TO FULFILL THOSE AT A LOWER COST IN THE FUTURE. ANY QUESTIONS? MR.. MR.. RIJINO. THIS IS A GOOD QUESTION. IS THERE ANY GRANT FUNDING? I KNOW THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED GRANT FUNDING FOR SOMEBODY TO BE AN EDITOR. WOULD THAT WORK FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? AND THAT WOULD BE THEIR PROJECT. THAT IS SOMETHING WE WE LOOKED AT THAT THE SKILL LEVEL REQUIRED FOR THIS TYPE OF WORK IS ABOVE WHAT WE WOULD TRUST TO AN INTERN. IT'S POSSIBLE THERE COULD BE GRANT FUNDING, BUT NOT FROM AN INTERN ANGLE. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME OTHER TYPE OF PROGRAM, BUT WE'D WANT TO HAVE AN EXPERIENCED PERSON THAT THAT CAN EVALUATE THESE DOCUMENTS AS THEY GO IN. THERE'S DATA THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED AS THE DOCUMENTS ARE SUBMITTED THAT NEEDS TO BE VERY ACCURATE. AND, AND THAT PERSON WOULD NEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF KNOWLEDGE TO DO THAT. I DO AGREE WITH YOU. SURE, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT SOME GRANT FUNDING THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY KEEP OUR EYES OPEN FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU. BY THE WAY, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS. ONE IS NOT AVAILABLE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN INCREASE IN PUBLIC REQUEST FOR SECURITY ON OUR. OFFICE. THAT IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. YES. THANK YOU. RAY. WE'RE GOOD. TRANSIT. SO THE ONE WITH TRANSIT AS FAR AS WHAT WE NEED TO BUDGET OR NOT BUDGET FOR TRANSIT IS THE TDA FUNDING FOR STASTAF AND LTF. NOT SURE IF HISTORICALLY THAT'S BEEN FUNDED OR I'M SORRY, BUDGETED FOR. WE GOT OUR 2627 ESTIMATE AND THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS ON THERE AS FAR AS THE POTENTIAL FUNDING. BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN IT BUDGETED IN THE, IN THE PRIOR YEARS. SO THAT'S WHAT'S SORT OF MAKING THE BUDGET A LITTLE BIT OR HIGHER THAN IT WAS IN PREVIOUS YEARS. SO THAT'S PART OF IT. WE ARE DOING A SCRUB RIGHT NOW OF, OF TDA. I HAVE ROCIO AND A FEW OTHER TEAM MEMBERS LOOKING AT TDA AND DETAIL GOING BACK AND SEEING IF WHERE WE STAND ON OUR, OUR BALANCES TO SEE IF WE'VE COLLECTED EVERYTHING WE'VE NEEDED TO COLLECT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. BUT AS FAR AS PROJECTIONS ARE CONCERNED, THAT IS WHAT THEY PROJECT FOR FISCAL YEAR 27. SO THAT'S THAT PORTION. AND THEN SO THE THERE'S 35000 OF CIP THAT, THAT'S THAT, THAT THE REVENUE COMES INTO THIS ACCOUNT. AND THEN WE TAKE IT ON AND WE TAKE IT OUT OF THIS ACCOUNT TO FUND TWO OF THE PROJECTS. I'M SORRY. YEAH. THE IT'S THE THREE NEW ZERO EMISSIONS THAT WE HAVE GRANT REVENUE THAT WILL FUND THE 142,000. WE ALSO HAVE THE GRANT REVENUE FOR THE NEW TRANSIT FACILITY. THE TIMING ON THAT IS UNKNOWN. AND THEN THE REST OF THE OPERATING EXPENSES FALL IN LINE WITH [01:50:04] COMPUTER SOFTWARE BEING INCREASED FOR ROOT MATCH ADOBE AND GRAMMARLY. RIGHT, MARIA? THAT IS CORRECT. HOW MUCH DOES GO UP EVERY YEAR ON COST. AND THIS IS A IT'S NOT A SERVICE DEPARTMENT OR ORGANIZATION, BUT IT ACTS SIMILAR TO THAT BECAUSE OF THE, THE WAY THAT MUNICIPAL TRANSIT IS FUNDED AT THE END OF THE YEAR OR SHORTLY AFTER, THEN THE ACTUAL EXPENSES THAT WERE THAT OCCURRED IN THIS DEPARTMENT GET PAID THROUGH THE 50, THERE'S A, A SOURCE CALLED 5311 AND WHAT THAT DOESN'T COVER, THEN THE TDA FUNDS COVER THE BALANCE TO TAKE THE, THE NON CAPITAL COST DOWN TO ZERO. UNDER GROUP INSURANCE HOW MANY PERSONNEL IS IN THE TRANSIT? SO HOW DOES IT AVERAGE UP TO 87,000? SO THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY APPROVED THE ADDITION OF THE COORDINATOR LAST YEAR. AND NOW THAT IS FILLED. AND THEN WE HAVE THE APPROVAL FOR ONE ADDITIONAL DRIVER ALSO. SO THAT'S FORECAST IN THERE. ANY QUESTIONS? MR.. MR.. MR.. REINA, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I WANT I WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE BOTTOM. CAN YOU SEE IT? OH, SORRY. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. NO QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. THAT'S THE END OF THAT. OKAY. DURING FINANCE CHOICES. WHAT? OH, YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. I FORGOT ABOUT MY OWN DEPARTMENT. I THOUGHT, OH, BOY. OKAY. OFF THE HOOK. THAT'S RIGHT. THERE'S A DEPARTMENT THAT I WORK IN, TOO. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO ON THE NON DEPARTMENT. DEPARTMENTAL. THIS IS THIS ACCOUNT IS USUALLY JUST USED FOR THINGS THAT ARE NOT VERY SPECIFIC TO AN ACCOUNT OR TO ONE PARTICULAR ORG. AND SO THE OPERATING TRANSFERS WITHIN THIS BUDGET OF THE 6.4 MILLION, ACCORDING TO THE CIP, THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, IT JUST SAYS IT'S GENERAL FUNDS, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN ALLOCATED WHICH GENERAL FUND IT WILL COME OUT OF. SO RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST SORT OF PLACED HERE UNTIL THERE'S, UNTIL WE CAN CONSIDER WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE FUNDED FROM. NON-DEPARTMENTAL. OH. OTHER ONE. YEAH. ARE WE IN WHICH ONE? YEAH. OH, THERE WE GO. YEAH. SORRY. RIGHT NOW, ACCORDING TO THE CIP, THESE WERE ALL DETERMINED TO BE GENERAL FUNDS, BUT NON-DEPARTMENTAL. SO WE CAN PLACE THOSE SOMEWHERE ELSE OR. LEAVE AS IS. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S BEEN DONE IN THE PAST, AND I BELIEVE WE'VE MAINTAINED A NON-DEPARTMENTAL ACCOUNT, IF YOU WILL, IN THE PAST. SO IF THAT'S A. REASONABLE WAY TO KEEP IT, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT IF THERE'S A BETTER SUGGESTION. WE CAN DEFINITELY TALK ABOUT CHANGES IF WE NEED TO. OKAY. IS THIS A COMMON PRACTICE? I MEAN, THIS THIS ORG GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND ANYWAY. SO IT JUST IT'S JUST IT IS SOMETIMES IT IS KNOWN TO HAVE A GENERAL NON-DEPARTMENTAL SO THAT LIKE, IT DOESN'T GET INTO LIKE STREETS OR IT AND GETS SPREAD OUT THROUGH OTHER ORGS WITHIN THE WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION. EXCUSE ME. LARRY. WELL, YEAH, [01:55:10] THE THINGS THAT I'VE SEEN BEING CODED HERE. HERE DOES. YES. AND I THINK MAYBE EVEN MORE THAN PROVIDING MORE CLARITY, IT PREVENTS CONFUSION BY TRYING TO STICK IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. YEAH. THANK YOU. MR. MEDINA. ANY QUESTIONS? MR. RYAN? I'M GOOD MYSELF. WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. SO THE NEXT STEP IN THIS PROCESS. SO WE DO HAVE MINE. OH, YEAH. I THOUGHT WE DID YOURS. NO. OH. DID WE DO IT? NO NO NO NO. WE JUST WERE ON THE SLIDE TEMPORARILY. OKAY. YEAH. AND SO AGAIN THE ONLY THING ON, ON THE FINANCE ONE THAT I WANT TO JUST SORT OF EARMARK IS THAT FOR THE OFFICE SUPPLIES AND OFFICE EXPENSES THE TWO ACCOUNTS SORT OF NET TO 1000. I JUST DIDN'T LIKE WHERE ONE THING WAS CODED. SO IN THE FUTURE I'M GOING TO CODE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND SO TAKE THAT -10,000 THAT POSITIVE 9000 JUST SORT OF NET THEM TOGETHER TO A -1000. I JUST SAW HISTORICALLY ONE OF OUR INVOICES WAS BEING CODED TO WHAT I FELT WAS THE WRONG ACCOUNT. AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANT TO PUT IN HERE IS A BUDGET LINE ITEM FOR LSL YOU GUYS HAVE THE COUNCIL HAS APPROVED THE CONTRACT FOR 60,000. AND THIS IS NOT AN ASKING FOR AN INCREASE. THIS IS JUST SAYING SOME OF THE MONEY MIGHT BE USED NEXT YEAR INSTEAD OF THIS YEAR. SO WE MIGHT USE ABOUT 40 THIS YEAR AND THERE COULD BE 20 THAT FALL INTO JULY, MAYBE AUGUST. SO I'M NOT ASKING FOR MORE. I'M JUST SAYING IT MIGHT FALL IN THIS NEXT COMING FISCAL YEAR INSTEAD OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. SO IT'LL BE A REDUCTION THIS YEAR AND JUST IT ROLL OVER KIND OF THING. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE LSL JUST BECAUSE THEY MAY WORK THEIR WAY INTO JULY TO FOR THE REST OF THEIR CONTRACT. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO DO. MR. MAYOR MEDINA. THAT'S WHAT MR. RAINA. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. OKAY. SO THE AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE QUESTIONS. AND WE'VE GOT A LIST OF THINGS WE'LL BE WORKING ON. THE THE OTHER THING THAT IS STILL IN PROGRESS RIGHT NOW IS WITH ALL THE CHANGES IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT WE ARE WORKING ON, TRACY AND HER STAFF ARE WORKING ON GETTING THE BEST SOLID REVENUE NUMBERS THAT WE CAN FOR YOU. WE'VE SHARED WITH YOU BEFORE THAT THE, THE OUTLOOK OR AT LEAST LOOKING BACK, WE HAD, WE HAD BUDGETED FOR FLAT TAX SALES TAX REVENUES, AND WE ACTUALLY SAW ABOUT A 3% INCREASE THERE. WE'RE WE'RE WE RELY ON OUR SALES TAX CONSULTANT FOR PROJECTIONS INTO THE FUTURE, KEEPING IN MIND THE OTHER UNCERTAINTIES IN THE NATION AND IN THE WORLD. WE'RE TRYING TO ONCE AGAIN BE VERY CONSERVATIVE THERE. BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THE, THE DEPARTMENTAL CHANGES HERE WILL BE COVERED BY THAT, BUT WE'LL HAVE BETTER NUMBERS ON REVENUE PROJECTIONS FOR YOU BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING. AND THEN WE'LL GO OVER THOSE NUMBERS IN DETAIL AT THE NEXT MEETING BEFORE THE ADOPTION TAKES PLACE. THE OTHER THING THAT I WILL THROW OUT HERE NOW IS WITH THAT UNCERTAINTY IN THE LARGER ECONOMY I, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE FOLLOW UP BUDGET MEETING THAT WE JUST GET ON THE BOOKS EARLY, MAYBE TOWARD THE END OF FIRST QUARTER NEXT YEAR. NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND SEE WHAT HAS HAPPENED. SEE IF, YOU KNOW, ISSUES IN THE MIDDLE EAST HAVE RESOLVED THEMSELVES OR NOT. AND WE CAN TAKE FURTHER ACTION IF WE NEED TO. WE CAN UPDATE SOME OF THE NUMBERS AS FAR AS PROJECTIONS. THE ONE THAT EVEN IF NOTHING ELSE IS AFFECTED FOR CERTAIN FUEL, THE IMPACT OF FUEL COSTS COULD COULD HIT US IN A WAY THAT WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE WITH A BUDGET APPROPRIATION OR SOMETHING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE THERE, OR IT COULD RESOLVE AND GO THE OTHER WAY. AND PERHAPS WE'VE OVERBUDGETED. IF THAT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE APPROACH, THEN, THEN I WOULD EXPECT IF THINGS ARE STILL IN FLUX, THAT WE WOULD ASK FOR ANOTHER PERHAPS VERY EARLY MID-YEAR KIND OF A MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THOSE EXACT TOPICS AGAIN. BUT AT THIS POINT, I THINK YOU KNOW, THE TRACY AND EVERYBODY IN HER DEPARTMENT AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB, MIRACULOUS JOB GETTING US CAUGHT UP WITH THIS BUDGET PROCESS AS FAR BEHIND AS WE WERE AND TO GET THESE NUMBERS. [02:00:09] I MEAN, SHE, SHE DESERVES THE CREDIT AND THOSE IN HER DEPARTMENT FOR GETTING US THIS DATA IN A TIMELY WAY WHERE WE CAN HAVE HAVE IT IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL. AND THERE'S A LOT MORE WORK TO DO. BUT YOU KNOW, I'M CERTAIN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET CAUGHT UP. SO HATS OFF TO TRACY AND HER, HER CREW. THEIR LONG NIGHTS PUT IN HERE RECENTLY. SO WITH THAT SAID, ARE THERE ANY OTHER KIND OF OVERARCHING QUESTIONS, TOPICS THAT WE DIDN'T ADDRESS TONIGHT. THAT THAT THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT MR. MEDINA. NO, I MEAN, I THINK EVERYTHING WAS ADDRESSED DURING THE MEETING, SO, I MEAN, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S PUT INTO THIS. AND YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IN TERMS OF STAYING ON TOP OF IT IS, YOU KNOW, IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY. SO I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, PUTTING SOMETHING ON THE CALENDAR. OKAY. MR. RYAN. NO, NOTHING. JUST THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU GUYS PUT IN IN THE PROJECT. GOOD INFORMATION. THANK YOU. THAT MR. RIJINO, I THINK THE MAYOR YEAH. I'M REALLY. ENCOURAGED BY THE FACT THAT CLEARLY. I EXPRESSED MY CONCERNS. REGARDING THE ECONOMY. AND YOU ARE LOOKING AT IT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS SITUATION WE DO NOT FIND IN THE CITY. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS IS FOR ALL THE WORKING PEOPLE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MISS REINA. I'D LIKE TO ECHO MY. MR. MEDINA SAID ANYTHING FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY. I'M FOR THAT. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE HARD WORK. AND, YOU KNOW, YOUR DUE DILIGENCE ON ON YOUR GUYS'S PART. AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. SO IT'S A LITTLE DANGEROUS AT THIS STAGE OF THE MEETING, BUT I OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL OR TO THE STAFF RATHER IF YOU HAD IF THERE'S SOMETHING I MISSED OR OTHER COMMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE AT THIS POINT, I THINK ANY ONE OF YOU GUYS. OKAY. I WILL SHARE ONE HAPPY THING THAT HAPPENED WHEN THE NUMBERS STARTED COMING IN BY DEPARTMENT, AND THE CHIEF AND I HAVE BEEN MEETING PRETTY REGULARLY LOOKING AT HIS NUMBERS IN PARTICULAR, AND WE WERE BOTH SHOCKED AT THE RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT OF INCREASE THAT HE'S BEEN ABLE TO, TO HAVE, EVEN WITH THAT LONG LIST OF SUBSCRIPTIONS. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT IS A THAT'S A BIG ISSUE IN A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS. AND HE'S DONE A GOOD JOB OF KEEPING THAT UNDER CONTROL. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. SO THERE'S NOTHING ELSE I, I THINK I'M DONE. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOOD. MOVING ON TO ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME SEEING NONE. ANY COMMENTS FROM THE MEMBERS? MAYOR PRO TEM URENA? NO. MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU. MEMBER MEMBER MEMBER MEDINA. THE ONLY, I GUESS THE ONLY THING THAT COMES TO MIND IS WHAT YOU SAID. THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE MORE FOLLOW UP TO THIS. YEAH, WELL, WE'LL BE SENDING OUT THE REVENUE PROJECTIONS AS WE DEVELOP THEM PRIOR TO THE JUNE 2ND MEETING. OKAY. AND THEN THEY'LL BE PERHAPS EVEN FINAL UPDATES. PLUS THESE QUESTIONS AND CORRECTIONS MADE THAT WE COLLECTED TONIGHT. AND THEN ANYTHING THAT GETS SENT IN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, AS LONG AS WE HAVE IT BEFORE, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF THE JUNE 2ND MEETING, WE'LL GET THOSE CORRECTED ON THE FINAL DRAFT THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDERS. OKAY. SO THE JUNE 2ND, THAT'S JUST REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OR IS IT? THAT'S THAT'S ISN'T THAT CORRECT? YEAH. SO REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. AND THAT'S OUR TARGET FOR ADOPTING THE BUDGET. GOTCHA. OKAY. THAT'S IT. REMEMBER? RIGHT. NO, NO. AND I HAVE NO COMMENTS MYSELF. AND I WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE CLOSED SESSION THIS EVENING. [5. CLOSED SESSION] WE HAVE ITEMS FIVE EIGHT. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING CLOSED SESSION ITEMS AT THIS TIME? CAN YOU PLEASE READ OFF THE TITLE? MAYOR READ IT FIRST. YES. OKAY. CLOSED SESSION FIVE, ITEM FIVE. A CONFERENCE WITH LABOR NEGOTIATIONS NEGOTIATORS. 54957.6 AGENCY DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE M SCOTT HURLBERT AND NANCY VERA. [02:05:06] EMPLOYEE ORGANIZATION WASCO POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION. WE WILL NOW ENTER INTO CLOSED SESSION AND RETURN TO REPORT OUT. MA'AM. YOU SAID NO REPORTABLE ACTION FROM THE CLOSED SESSION. MADAM CLERK. PERFECT. WE'RE READY. 713 AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.